400ft of Kodak XX all gone...

[Vincent.G]

I was loaded a newly opened Kodak XX 400ft can into my IXMOOs with the SAFE LIGHT ON...

After that I took a long walk and shot 5 rolls. I returned home eager to see the results and developed two rolls in D-76. "Yeah, 10min 1+1 dilution..." I fixed the film, rinsed it out... pull out the film from the reels... and they all came out totally fogged, pitch black ! :bang: My hope was the remaining three rolls but they were all fogged.

So my silliest question in the world is: is my safe light is not safe? Or I have to load film in TOTAL DARKNESS i.e. no safe light?

I am in a complete state of shock and disbelief... I just dumped the whole can into the trash and kicked it out of my door 😡

But I have a nice-looking USD200 Kodak XX 400ft film can souvenir for to keep my scissors, canister opener and maybe stationary. 🙁

Pain... pain... pain... :bang:

 

[Clovis]

Modern films are panchromatic (sensitive to all/most colors of light). This means that the film is sensitive to red light. You have to load B&W film in total darkness, or else it fogs, as you experienced.

The red safelight is only safe to use for enlarging with orthrochromatic papers (ie, paper that is not/less sensitive to red light).

 

[tarullifoto]

Perils of panchromatic film

Perils of panchromatic film

Virtually all B&W films are panchromatic, meaning it's sensitive to all visible wavelengths, including those put out by your safelight. Short answer: your film is toast.

Safelights are for B&W print paper only.

My sympathies!

 

[sanmich]

Safe light is for paper, Vincent, not for film that have to reproduce all visible color.
sorry, but about the film, he's dead, Jim

 

[johannielscom]

Hm.

I'm thinking this film probably wasn't all dead, just the outer few winds of film on the roll. the rest would have been shielded from the light since it was tightly wound...

Now that you have dumped it in the bin, that's not all that relevant anymore btw...


Sorry for your loss.

 

[Vincent.G]

Modern films are panchromatic (sensitive to all/most colors of light). This means that the film is sensitive to red light. You have to load B&W film in total darkness, or else it fogs, as you experienced.

The red safelight is only safe to use for enlarging with orthrochromatic papers (ie, paper that is not/less sensitive to red light).

(Long) Sigh... I should have known that. I am a film shooter. :bang:

 

[xayraa33]

Chalk it up as a learning experience.

 

[Vincent.G]

Virtually all B&W films are panchromatic, meaning it's sensitive to all visible wavelengths, including those put out by your safelight. Short answer: your film is toast.

Safelights are for B&W print paper only.

My sympathies!

I just took back my 400 ft of toasted Kodak XX from the trash... my kids might have lots of test film to learn how to load my IXMOOs...

Anyone wants some of the 400ft too?

 

[Vincent.G]

Safe light is for paper, Vincent, not for film that have to reproduce all visible color.
sorry, but about the film, he's dead, Jim

Really expensive lesson. $$$$$ :bang:

 

[Vincent.G]

Hm.

I'm thinking this film probably wasn't all dead, just the outer few winds of film on the roll. the rest would have been shielded from the light since it was tightly wound...

Now that you have dumped it in the bin, that's not all that relevant anymore btw...


Sorry for your loss.

Most likely all of it gone to heaven because I the whole reel exposed for more than an hour directly under the (un)safe light bulb.

Hey, but I have a nice USD200 tin can from Kodak! 😀

 

[Vincent.G]

Chalk it up as a learning experience.

I cannot imagine all the potential keepers on those 5 rolls I shot... :bang:

 

[helen.HH]

Bummer...Very Sorry to hear !

Perhaps a 'Framed' tin Kodak Can may One Day make You Giggle
But right now I too Feel your Pain

 

[Ronald_H]

Ouch, that's got to hurt 🙁

As stated by others, panchromatic film will be ruined by any safelight.

 

[Vincent.G]

Bummer...Very Sorry to hear !

Perhaps a 'Framed' tin Kodak Can may One Day make You Giggle
But right now I too Feel your Pain

LOL! Helen, good suggestion! 😀

I am going to make a phone call for another 400ft can tomorrow!

 

[Livesteamer]

Very sorry to hear that. I once opened up my Watson loader with a fresh 100 foot roll in it and looked at it for about 30 seconds before I realized what I had done.

Let he who has not screwed up throw the first stone. Joe

 

[Vincent.G]

Ouch, that's got to hurt 🙁

As stated by others, panchromatic film will be ruined by any safelight.

Valuable life lesson, as they all say. 🙁

 

[taskoni]

That's the spirit!

It was only a film after all.

Regards,

Boris

 

[Vincent.G]

Very sorry to hear that. I once opened up my Watson loader with a fresh 100 foot roll in it and looked at it for about 30 seconds before I realized what I had done.

Let he who has not screwed up throw the first stone. Joe

LOL! I will make sure I don't do that! 😛

 

[Vincent.G]

That's the spirit!

It was only a film after all.

Regards,

Boris

I can't let my IXMOOs become paper weights. 😎

 

[haempe]

I can feel with you.
Two years ago I loaded some IXMOOs with N74 and turned the light on without re-wrapping the film bulk.

The good thing: I (and most likely you too) will never again make this mistake.