A film with no perforation holes

[Jani_from_Finland]

Is it possible to use a film (35mm bulk loaded on casettes) with no perforation holes on it with modern cameras or cameras with lever wind?
I am in a hurry, fast answers is of importance.

 

[Leigh Youdale]

No! The sprocket holes are there to pull the film through the camera. The takeup spool probably has a slip clutch and won't do the job.

 

[DNG]

NO
There is not enough friction to keep the frame spacing acurate. It will advance though, if you make sure the leader is well wound on the take-up spool. But, the holes will keep from drifting up and down inside.
Don't know for sure, but an educated guess on my part.

 

[Jani_from_Finland]

Just as i thought! Well maybe possible to use on old 120 film cameras, but thats not for me.
Think if there would be a bulk loader that cut the holes for you...

 

[Jani_from_Finland]

How about on an Leica M3 with those leica casettes or an early Nikon F body?

 

[crawdiddy]

Is it possible to use a film (35mm bulk loaded on casettes) with no perforation holes on it with modern cameras or cameras with lever wind?
I am in a hurry, fast answers is of importance.

The Kodak Bantam Special (and possibly other Bantams) use 828 film, which is 35mm film without sprocket holes. Your film would be useful for that camera. Actually, the 828 film uses a single hole on 1 edge of the film only, to delineate the frames. But, it works with no holes. The camera is actually quite nice, but only holds about 8 frames per roll. The Kodak Ektar Anastigmat 45mm f2 lens is not bad, although a little prone to flare.

Where did you get the film, and what kind is it?

 

[varjag]

I've heard reports using an unperforated film in M-series Leica, although frame intervals were huge.

 

[Tom A]

Long time ago I tried this. It was on a M2. I simply discarded the take-up spool and taped the end of the film to the long shaft. This eliminated the need for a take-up spool and the 'slip" in that. It worked - but as stated before - the film was all over the place and spacing was erratic - to put it mildly. You also have to clean the shaft very carefully afterwards as residual adhesive from the gaffer tape would " cement" the take-up spool to the shaft. I doubt it would work on a M3 as it has a much shorter shaft.

 

[xwhatsit]

Unperfed film does work on a few modern cameras, especially some of the modern motor-drive point and shoots and SLRs that wind the whole film out as soon as you load the cartridge, then run it "backwards" back into the cartridge as you shoot.

 

[jan normandale]

use it in a 120 Holga... check this

http://www.flickr.com/groups/86881528@N00/discuss/72157604608361477/

 

[Jani_from_Finland]

use it in a 120 Holga... check this

Well, i have an original Diana F with a 4x4 film space that could do it with this one.
How about counting the "frames" shot and i probably would need to tape all frame checking and other out. Anyone knowing how i need to force it to stay in the middle of the spool and so it keeps there? I'll check that flickr stuff.

 

[Jani_from_Finland]

Found an old 35mm film, will try to check out the turn/distance on this one, maybe i can use this kind of film in this even if it is kind of too-good-quality-film for a plastic lens from the 60's.

 

[jan normandale]

Jani , the link has an extensive discussion about a 120 Holga (these cost about $50US) modificaton for 135 film use. The camera has a "click pawl" that is audible as film is wound forward. When the film is loaded into the camera you count the number of clicks for each advance. This is discussed in detail in that link. Finally you will see there's a home made 'dial' to help assist with the counting and positioning of the 135 film being advanced in the 120 format Holga.

I think your 120 Diana might be equally employed like the discussed Holga.

Finally here's one more link on using 35mm film in a 120 Holga. Take a close look. It actually might be a fun project to do.
http://www.squarefrog.co.uk/techniques/using-35mm-film.html
Good luck!

 

[Leigh Youdale]

I mean, why would you actually go to all this trouble? Unless it's just an intellectual challenge to see if it can possibly be done - but what's the point in the end? Just buy perforated film and be done with it.

 

[wblynch]

It can be used to respool 126 (Instamatic) cartridges. Is it black and white, or color?