DavidFree1
Newbie
At the moment I have all three cameras and I cannot afford to keep one of the three on the shelf. The m9 shutter count 17k & monochrom 35k. Wondering which one You would stay with or if both should go since the M240 looks like it could capture it all ?
Thanks for the advice in advance. I shoot portraits and street photography in New York and need a rangefinder I can boost the iso higher than 800.
There is nothing like the monochrom but the M240 also shoots black and white. Help
Thanks for the advice in advance. I shoot portraits and street photography in New York and need a rangefinder I can boost the iso higher than 800.
There is nothing like the monochrom but the M240 also shoots black and white. Help
selahsean
Member
I've recently sold both a M10 and M9 but I'm keeping the M9M for now. I kind of like really leaning into the constraints of the M9M. Plus the files I get from it are just different and interesting enough that I don't think I could replicate them on another setup. That being said selling either the M9 or the M9M will depend on sensor replacement (they run $1600 from Leica now). Depending on condition they all seem to go for about the same rate ~$2500 (with the M9M probably fetching a few hundred more).
I probably wouldn't keep both the M9 and the M9M honestly and if you need color there's probably an advantage to keeping the M240. To me there's enough difference in converting the M240 to black and white and the native M9M files that I'd keep the M9M but ymmv.
I probably wouldn't keep both the M9 and the M9M honestly and if you need color there's probably an advantage to keeping the M240. To me there's enough difference in converting the M240 to black and white and the native M9M files that I'd keep the M9M but ymmv.
jordan.dickinson
Jordan Dickinson
if it were me, I'd sell the M9, and keep the monochrom, but I just recently got my monochrom, so I'm a bit biased. That said, your new M240 will also be a good substitute for the M9, while still having the monochrom for it's unique abilities. I know there's plenty to be said about the M9 vs. M240 sensor differences, but there's a reason I don't own an M9 anymore, but I do own a monochrom + M262...
DavidFree1
Newbie
Advice pls, sell my M9 or Monochrom for M240
May I ask why'd you sell the M10? I was thinking of selling all three m's for the m10.
And Thank you'll for the advise, I think I will keep my Monochrom. It is my first digital Leica and really helped me see the world differently in black and white. I also took some of my favorite photos with the Monochrom and my Nikkor 50mm 1.4
image by david free, on Flickr
image by david free, on Flickr
image by david free, on Flickr
May I ask why'd you sell the M10? I was thinking of selling all three m's for the m10.
And Thank you'll for the advise, I think I will keep my Monochrom. It is my first digital Leica and really helped me see the world differently in black and white. I also took some of my favorite photos with the Monochrom and my Nikkor 50mm 1.4
image by david free, on Flickrimage by david free, on Flickrimage by david free, on Flickr
If you do it,
get a used M10 instead, a much better camera in my opinion than the 240
Richard G
Veteran
Great shots. Can’t advise. I’d have sold the M9 maybe for a used M10 and keep the M9M. What to do now I don’t know. I’m still sitting with M9 and Monochrom. A lot of us use ISO 640 max with the M9, use the shutter speed we insist we must have and then fix in Lightroom. This effectively gives you acceptable ISO 1280 with the one stop underexposure.
raid
Dad Photographer
Leica will announce coming week a new M10. Wait for it?
arseniii
Well-known
Don't sell monochrome! You'll regret it (based on the difference in shutter count)
Also, ask yourself do you really need m240 to take better pictures?
M9 is still capable of delivering great shots at ISO over 800. Well, unless you're trying to impress
camera geeks and button sniffers.
If you think M240 will inspire you to go out and shoot then go for it.
M9 sells pretty much at M240 prices these days. If you buy m240 and keen the Mono you'll break your
"One fits all" battery system and will have to have 2 types of chargers and
2 types of batteries. I would not want to be in this situation.
Also, ask yourself do you really need m240 to take better pictures?
M9 is still capable of delivering great shots at ISO over 800. Well, unless you're trying to impress
camera geeks and button sniffers.
If you think M240 will inspire you to go out and shoot then go for it.
M9 sells pretty much at M240 prices these days. If you buy m240 and keen the Mono you'll break your
"One fits all" battery system and will have to have 2 types of chargers and
2 types of batteries. I would not want to be in this situation.
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
I'm not sure I agree with this opinion, but I would still follow the advise.
I wouldn't say the M10 is "better" as the differences are mostly subjective. I doubt you could distinguish images in a side-by-side comparison between the M240 and M10. But the M10 just has the film M feel/handling its predecessors did not. It's about the same size as an M6TTL/M7 and it has a simpler menu system compared to the M240.
The M9, I believe, has the best colors compared to any of its successors, but the sensor corrosion issue (unless replaced by Leica) is enough for me to stay away. The MM produces wonderful B&W files (I'm still processing files I took with mine 5-years ago), but I like the DNG M240/M10 files converted to B&W better by comparison. They're richer with more dynamic range and contrast.
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
Also note: The M240/M10's B&W mode produces jpg files, which is why I shoot RAW and convert to B&W in PS.
f.hayek
Well-known
What's a "button sniffer"? I am unfamiliar with that (?)Montreal idiom.
Anyway, I started out with an M9M, skipped over the fat-ass M240 altogether and got an M10P. Yes, two battery chargers. But I will leave home with one or the other, not both. The B&W conversions from the M240 (or M9) are not like the M9M. Nothing is. The M9M gives you clean files to ~6400 ISO
If clean high-ISO matters to you for color, sell the M9 (it's now fetching a premium) along with the M240 (not fetching a premium) and get an M10P or M10R.
Uh, not subjective. The M10's shutter is way quieter (M10-P quieter still--amazing), higher clean ISO and slim like a film M. The RF is a leap beyond its predecessors. For many, the M240's bloat was a "bridge too far", though it was a dramatically better camera than the M9. Most of us needed video like we needed a 2nd spouse. (No offense to polygamists)