Agonizing about lenses: 4 friends in their 50’s…

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I have been promising myself for some time, to simplify my gear selection somewhat, and as I am a bit of a fanatic of 50mm lenses, I thought that comparing some of the 50/2 legends might be a good place to start.
Let me immediately precise, that I am a B&W film photographer only, and whatever my conclusions about these lenses could be, they may not be relevant to colour/digital users.
A 50mm lens is the most versatile animal there is. It is still very easy to focus and frame on a rangefinder, yet, if somewhat fast, it can also be pretty accurately focused on an SLR, with the added benefit of being able to view precisely what is in the frame, and without the need to recompose for wide open portraits.
I like the 50’s for portraiture too – they might be just behind in preferences, after the 55-60mm lenses, that offer a slightly tighter framing with a similar DOF.

For this test, I have also experimented with a new film – as my reserves of APX 100 and Plus X are drying out, I wanted to have a go at RPX 100 – apparently Rollei’s suggested replacement for these other films going out of production.

The lenses were:
- Leica DR Summicron 50/2 on a Leica M4
- Leica Summicron R 50/2 1st version on a Leica R4s2
- Nikon Nikkor 50/2 H.C. on Nikon F2
- Zeiss Makro Planar 50/2 on Nikon F3


20136812 by mfogiel, on Flickr

I took a stable tripod, enough film, and set out to visit a garden I always wanted to see in the nearby Menton – La Serre de la Madone – a charming creation of Lawrence Johnston, an American garden lover, and also the creator of the famous Hidcote Manor in the UK.
It is always pleasant to take photographs in a place you see for the first time. There is a new intensity in your perception, which over time withers away. Perhaps it is a result of our evolutionary reaction to a new environment, which needs to be quickly evaluated, to enhance orientation and reassure no dangers are present. It is easier to see the forms and patterns, when you see something fresh.
I was not interested to find the ultimate sharpness or whatever other singular trait of a lens, but rather to verify in the field, how four competent lenses perform in a broad range of settings. The tripod and a relatively sharp film assure, that it will be difficult for me to obtain better technical results in everyday handheld photo taking.
The lenses here, are of similar basic specifications, with the Makro Planar being the exception for its close focus correction, but while the difference in price is quite big ( 30 EUR for Nikkor and 1000 EUR for Makro Planar, with the Summicrons falling in between), how big is the difference in effective output?
Is it reasonable, that we agonize over internet reviews, and seek the holy grail of lens perfection?
Let’s look at the results.
The first picture, has actually been made as last, and will explain a lot of subsequent differences. While a lot of people write a lot of words about which lens is sharper than another, how many of them actually know if their lenses focus as expected?
Given, that after the first frame, the battery in my F3 died, I have used both Nikon mount lenses on the F2, which adds some extra flavour to this test:


FOCUS COMPARISON by mfogiel, on Flickr

As you may know, the single factor, which deteriorates the resolution of a lens in a given plane of focus the most, is... the precision of the focus itself. As you open up your lens, and shorten the subject distance, the acceptable DOF narrows.
In case of 50mm f 2.0 lenses wide open (following the DOF Master calculator), the acceptable dof at 1m is around 4 cm, at 1.3 m is about 8cm and at 1.5 m is about 10cm. I normally avoid getting closer to the subject than 130-150cm, unless I do not fear facial distortion, however, to get the best "sparkle" out of a portrait, or best subject isolation for close up settings, the focus precision is paramount.

What we see on the chart, is, that the DR Summicron on my M4 is spot on, and so is the Makro Planar on the F2 ( note the incredible contrast of this lens wide open), BUT, on the same camera, the Nikkor is front focusing at least 4 cm, and on The R4, the Summicron R is back focusing slightly. It is clear, that this must be accounted for, when you chose your camera/lens combo, otherwise your tools cannot perform as expected. In case of Nikons F2 and F3, luckily a lot of different focusing screens are available, so you should try to match each lens to the body/screen combination.

Let's have a look now at some photographs. I have tried to make the comparison as fair as I could - adjusting slightly the scans to the same size, and brightness matching all the photographs as far as possible.
The post processing has been minimal, with my typical slight curves and contrast adjustments, and no burning or dodging has been applied. Only the portrait photo has been slightly more taken care of, because I did not want to disappoint the charming lady, who agreed to pose for me. If you want to pixel peep or even download and print these photos for the sake of comparison, you are welcome to do so - you will find virtually full size files on my flickr.

Last word, before we start looking at the photographs: I have used Rollei RPX 100 film here, exposed at EI 64, and developed it in rodinal 1+45 for 15 minutes at 20C - agitation every 3 minutes. The result has been very good, there were no problems with extreme contrast, the grain and sharpness are ok, and the nice bonus, is that this film dries completely flat. Everything has been scanned on Nikon CS900 at 4000dpi.

This is a typical "F8 and be there" shot, with lenses set to infinity at f8.0.


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_1 by mfogiel, on Flickr

I have looked at it at 100% on the screen for some time, and cannot find any major difference in sharpness. Perhaps the best resolution comes from the DR Summicron, but it is a small difference, and could be attributed to the absence of mirror slap. You can already see, that the DR and Nikkor exhibit lower contrast, the Summicron R somewhat higher, and the MP highest of them all, however, the range of tones delivered is superb in all four cases. I would welcome your observations, but my preliminary judgement is, that this is a tie.

Next scene, is a torture test for reflections - a pool of water with blooming algae and a host of pin sharp light hotspots from the sharp mediterranean sun. The focus was set to 1.5m , and aperture to f11.


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_3 by mfogiel, on Flickr

As you can see in detail, the Nikkor and Summicron R have a little bit of blooming and some ray like effects around the specular highlights. The MP is very well controlled, while the unexpectedly good performer is also the DR Summicron, which notwithstanding the oldest coatings, manages to control the reflections pretty well. Perhaps I would give the MP the lead here, with the Dr coming second, and the other lenses following, but frankly all four photos look perfectly acceptable.

To be continued...
 
The Summicron DR is interesting in the F8 test. Extreme pixel peeping, but I was going to question the comment about it being the sharpest. Every other lens looked like it had more definition looking at the branches. Then I noticed that the DR did have more detail in the roof though. I have heard about its falloff but as I haven't used one, I didn't realize it would be that noticeable relative to other lenses. Granted, we are talking rather extreme pixel peeping there so 'noticeable' is relative. 🙂
 
The next scene is a close up, with the focus on the edge of the chair's seat, and aperture set to f11 again. The M4 is somewhat penalized in this type of circumstances, as the focus does not fall precisely on the focusing patch, so you first need to focus and then recompose, with inevitable loss of sharpness. However in this case, the small aperture has equalized the result somewhat.


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_2 by mfogiel, on Flickr

Now, we get a couple of shots wide open, for a test for out of focus rendering. In the glasshouse photo, the focus was on the first dark leaves, in the interior photo, on the border of the round table:


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_4 by mfogiel, on Flickr


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_5 by mfogiel, on Flickr

It is clear, that bokeh is a personal affair, even if there are some objective elements that can be noted. In these cases, all lenses have presented a very pleasant rendering, with perhaps the MP having a slight edge evident in the second photo, when it is easier to see, that the light discs are uniform, without the brighter rings at the edges. On the other hand, the dimension of these rings with the MP seems to be somewhat smaller.

Here, again a longer range shot at f 8.0:


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_6 by mfogiel, on Flickr

To be continued...
 
Here, we will get a couple of photographs at closer range made at f 2.8. I find this to be a very interesting aperture on a 50mm - normally the contrast and sharpness are already very good, yet, the bokeh is strong enough to isolate the subject and add a soft pattern to the background. This would be a typical "man's" portrait aperture. Unfortunately, in the case of the MP shot of the statue, I had some light leak from the F2's bottom ( probably the odd mechanism for back opening).


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_7 by mfogiel, on Flickr


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_8 by mfogiel, on Flickr

It has been difficult to equalize the brightness of the statue shot, because the light was changing due to some wind, and the contrast range between the photographs differs too much - however all of them retain detail in the highlights - you can see how great is the DR Summicron in these circumstances, with its low contrast.
Other obvious differences regard the textures, well visible on the MP shots, and less so in case of the other lenses, and also the roundness of the aperture blades at f 2.8 - good on MP and DR, less so, with straight hexagonal print on the Nikkor, and slightly less pronounced, but also visible on the Summicron R.
I would assign a double winner here: the DR for how it copes with the contrast and for the bokeh, and the MP for the bokeh, as well as for the sheer power of rendering fine textures, even on such small format.

Finally, before leaving the enchanting garden, I have asked the charming lady who was in charge of the establishement to pose for me. She obviously tried to refuse, on grounds she did not come out well on the photographs, but I have categorically declared: don't worry, I make miracles! Then, I pulled the M4 from the bag and said: you know, this is the type of camera thet Cartier Bresson was using all his life!
At this point the ice was broken, and I prepared a chair for her in the open shade. Unfortunately, there were very high trees in front of us, so the light was not optimal, but I have used the tripod as monopod, and somehow got a few shots with each of the three lenses used. I set the Makro Planar aside here, perhaps unjustly, but I wanted to avoid excessive sharpness.


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_10 by mfogiel, on Flickr

I think the results are very good in all cases, although my framing could have been slightly better... Somehow, the eyes are reasonably sharp on each photo, even if we know about the focusing problem with the Nikkor. BTW, it is better to have a slight front focusing than back focusing lens for portraiture, because you tend to focus on the eyes, and even if the nose comes out as sharpest, you normally still reach out to the eyes, while a back focus leaves you with sharp ears and little else.

To be continued...
 
What's interesting here is the focus issue with the Nikkor. I get a bit worried about it, as this is one of my own favourite lenses (I have two). Outstanding contrast on the Planar, but it is also very expensive.
 
As I was leaving the garden to return home, there was this classic photo opportunity for a postcard shot along the Moyenne Corniche, so I went for it - this was done at f 5.6:


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_9 by mfogiel, on Flickr

And finally, when I got back to the office and started to think about developing the rolls, I noticed, I still had a few frames left, so I set up a quick table top photo for a close up at f 11:


50mm f2.0 LENS COMPARISON_11 by mfogiel, on Flickr

As you can see, the M4 is missing on the shot i took with it, so I substituted with an MP and HCB's favourite Collapsible Summicron...

I hope, anybody who is interested in these lenses will have an opportunity to look at the results and make their own opinion about personal preferences. I see here four very competent lenses, with the Nikkor perhaps just a little bit behind the others, but definitely not 970 EUR behind the Makro Planar.
Makro Planar would be the lens to take on this kind of outing, when you have the luxury of carrying a tripod and setting up the shots precisely, but you pay the price in terms of weight and size. The DR Summicron however, is also undoubtedly a precious tool, if less bulk is reuired, and broader tonal range is more important to you than the super fine textures and precise framing. The Summicron R is in the middle, with medium contrast, and a very pleasant overall rendering, including portraiture, at a very reasonable price. A pity it does not come with 8 or 9 blade aperture.

As I wrap up, the conclusion is not very clear... Perhaps, if I had to choose one camera/lens only, I would go with the R4, as it is a great compromise. None the less, the real surprise is, that these lenses have much more in common than what differentiates them, and if I did not tell you what tool was used, with just a little post processing, the differences would narrow to the point, that it would be impossible to tell them apart.
Conclusion: you will make your own, but my conclusion is, that it is better to take photos with what you have, than agonize about what you don't have, thinking that this limits your expressive abilities.
 
The Macro planar seems to give a more natural perspective compared to the others. I suppose it is corrected to have a flatter field. Most noticeable in the closer focus distances.
Interesting comparison overall. They all perform well enough for daily use.
 
that it is better to take photos with what you have, than agonize about what you don't have, thinking that this limits your expressive abilities.
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Perfect statements to end this. 😉 Very well done comparison. The Nikkor did fall behind the others though it was closer than I expected. I preferred the shots by the DR over the R Summicron more than I expected. Going in, I assumed those lenses would be extremely similar but there is something about the DR wide open that I prefer.

Edit: On the resolution front, I'm 99% sure my scanner wouldn't be able to get enough detail out of the negative for it to matter stopped down much at all. Handling, consistent focus and characteristics in the wide open to F4 range are much more interesting to me as a result.
 
Thanks for doing the comparisons. When it comes to 50s, this reinforces my belief that it's better to buy them based on their lens signature wide open, as they all start looking the same when stopped-down. YMMV.
 
I'm having fun shooting with the Nikon F fitted with Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 AI-S vs Leicaflex SL fitted with Summicron-R 50/2 or Summilux-R 50/1.4 vs Leica M(various) fitted with Nokton 50/1.5 ASPH (ltm) or Color Skopar 50/2.5 ...

Each lens has its unique and interesting rendering signature. They're all darn good performers. 🙂

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Thanks for this - so thorough, yet engagingly written. Thoroughly enjoyed it even though I am not one who is likely to shoot with any of these lenses.

I *think* I can convince myself that I like the MP's rendition the best, but only by a slight margin and not on every photo. I do like its contrastiness but I doubt I could pick it or any other out in a blind comparison.

Your tabletop composition is quite fun, too. 🙂
 
I remember somebody doing a comparison of 25 50-58mm lenses a year or so ago, even the worst ones wide open performed about as good as the best ones once f/5.6 was reached, in terms of sharpness. Often even wide open the only noticeable differences appeared in the corners. The most noticeable differences concerned rendering - color, contrast, OOF rendering.
 
Thanks for doing the comparisons. When it comes to 50s, this reinforces my belief that it's better to buy them based on their lens signature wide open, as they all start looking the same when stopped-down. YMMV.

I agree.
Contrast, color, sharpness... all can be manipulated in scanning or PS or printing. What remains is signature or bokeh. If i don't like what the lens does to out of focus areas, it doesn't matter about any of the other characteristics. I don't want a lens that 'creates' ugly regions in a photo. Of course, if you shoot mostly stopped down, it seems to all be irrelevant and you choose what's either most economical or what feels best in-hand.

Which Camera System do you enjoy using most? Follow up question: wouldn't you get bored if you were to choose only one system?
 
M,

great comparison!

on the topic of the discussion; the main advantages of the 50MP over the others at f5.6 are:

1. flatter field
2. less distortion
3. greater contrast in very fine details (assuming you have the system resolution to support it)

The DR cron may have higher extinction figures than the 50MP, but it definitely has field curvature which causes a significant mid field drop in contrast. It is largely irrelevant for photographing 3D objects, but it does exist.

I sold my ZM50/2 to get the 50MP for one reason and one reason alone; the 50MP renders texture better or as well as any lens I have ever personally seen excepting the 135/2 APO. Especially near max aperture. Putting up with the size and weight is a chore, but the lens is crazy. That is what I like, at any rate. And yes, because of that, it's worth the price to me despite there being a good many of other excellent 50/2 around.

I guess I'm going to have to pick up the nikkor myself though, they don't cost very much. Would have been great to see how an OM50/2 would have faired in the test.

BTW one thing you will find if you shoot these lenses on digital is that the 50MP has more DoF at every equivalent aperture due to the design. It's a bit odd, but it is true.
 
Which Camera System do you enjoy using most? Follow up question: wouldn't you get bored if you were to choose only one system?

Assuming that this was directed at the OP, but I'll answer anyway. 😀 I definitely prefer M42 over just about any other system. The sheer breadth of lens choice is amazing. You can even get anything from a weird pre-set Jupiter 9 85mm Sonnar to a modern Zeiss ZS 50mm f1.4 planar. Every signature you can imagine is available in M42.

And yes, I would get bored if I could only choose one system.
 
One aspect that struck me in the first post was the use of the H2 screen. Is this the easiest to focus accurately on the test line or would an A screen with split-image be better? Just curious
 
I got hold of a H2 screen, because I was looking for something that would focus correctly the fast portrait lenses, like Planar 85/1.4. Accidentally, this is the only screen, on which the ordinary Nikkor 50/1.4D focuses well too. Perhaps one of the ordinary screens will work better with the 50/2.
This page has lots of information about screens:
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/nikonf2/screens/
BTW, you can also use F3 screens, but you have to manually unscrew them from the F3 frame and put them inside the F2 frame. This way you get access to a much wider variety. Again, here you will find the compatibility chart for F3:
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/nikonf3ver2/screens/

As far as camera system, since I don't have much time for taking photos, Leica M is preferred, because it is the camera that works best in the street, and is easiest to "wear". However, I like a lot the MF cameras, and Contax 645 is really a great system, plus you can use all the Hasselblad V and F lenses with it on an adapter.

"BTW one thing you will find if you shoot these lenses on digital is that the 50MP has more DoF at every equivalent aperture due to the design. It's a bit odd, but it is true."
As redisburning has pointed out, this could actually be the reason, why the out of focus discs from MP are smaller than from the other 3 lenses.
 
If I started doing this with all my lenses it would mean a ticket to the insane asylum.

I shoot with a lens for a day or two. I look at the photos. If they look OK, I use the lens. If they don't look OK, I send the lens to DAG for adjustment/cleaning or I get rid of it.

If you saw the huge cartons of lenses in my house, you would already think I belonged in the insane asylum.
 
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