Tuolumne
Veteran
If money were no issue (and they are about the same price), which would you buy:
Nikon D3 or Leica M8?
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Nikon D3 or Leica M8?
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NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
You all know MY answer 
Kiu
Kiu
migtex
Don't eXchange Freedom!
No problem here, D3!
Ñow, if Nikon comes with a Digital RF camera (as some rumors poin to it)... that's another story!
Ñow, if Nikon comes with a Digital RF camera (as some rumors poin to it)... that's another story!
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
A D3 would be the cat's butt for my railroad photography...
Anupam
Well-known
D3 if I had to choose between those two. But I'd prefer a D300 and an M7.
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raid
Dad Photographer
What about having a vote for neither ?
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Nikon Bob
Guest
Didn't vote, no money for either, but the D3 would be my choice for the money.
Bob
Bob
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varjag
Guest
M8, because I don't use SLRs.
hofrench@mac.co
Established
I am a relatively satisfied M8 owner.
I wouldn't buy the D3 at that price for a whole host of reasons: shooting style, having to buy a new suite of lenses; size and weight, etc.
That said, I am very happy this new Nikon is entering the market. I think it is going shake up a lot of manufacturers, perhaps even Leica, forcing them to raise their game, and eventually to lower their prices on some of the bleeding edge features.
Long live competition!
I wouldn't buy the D3 at that price for a whole host of reasons: shooting style, having to buy a new suite of lenses; size and weight, etc.
That said, I am very happy this new Nikon is entering the market. I think it is going shake up a lot of manufacturers, perhaps even Leica, forcing them to raise their game, and eventually to lower their prices on some of the bleeding edge features.
Long live competition!
Bike Tourist
Well-known
The D3 sounds great. It's just a little late for me, having abandoned Nikon a couple years ago. Now, I have my (cheaper) Canon 5D, full frame and high IQ. I have always liked the Nikon layout and handling, but it's too late for me.
Tuolumne
Veteran
Hey, Mr. Moderator, why doesn't this thread show up in the "active threads" view? I have to jump into the sub-forum to see it.
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Tuolumne
Veteran
toyotadesigner said:If I'd have a customer for a tiny broschure: D3. Else: None. 12 MP is the dirt of a tiny fly. I won't give up my 130 MP from my scans.
Aren't these scans empty megabytes? If I save my scans as a TIFF they are 100++ MB. If I save them as a JPG (apples to apples) they are about 3-9 MB. I'm not convinced consumer level scans of negatives show much more or any more detail than a good digital camera. I just cropped an image from my R-D1 (6 MP sensor), using about 1/3rd of it for the final image. It was even shot at 800 ISO, which is pretty noisy on the R-D1. The final image size was a 1.4 MB JPG. I printed it at 11x17 on an Epson R1800. The image was beautiful - no pixilation and excellent detail. There was a small amount of noise visible if I took my glasses off and stood about 3 inches from the photo. Otherwise, nada!
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ywenz
Veteran
The D3 is a revolutionary camera. The M8 is simply a decent camera in a unique form factor.
I've seen portraits taken by the D3 in low low light at 25600 ISO and it looks great! It is also the sexier looking camera of the two...
One can argue that it's reasonable to sacrifice camera size to achieve high resolution with a medium or large format camera, well in the case of the D3 vs M8, you are sacrificing camera size to be able to experience photography that is truly revolutionary. Small price to pay in my book.
I've seen portraits taken by the D3 in low low light at 25600 ISO and it looks great! It is also the sexier looking camera of the two...
One can argue that it's reasonable to sacrifice camera size to achieve high resolution with a medium or large format camera, well in the case of the D3 vs M8, you are sacrificing camera size to be able to experience photography that is truly revolutionary. Small price to pay in my book.
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willie_901
Veteran
If I were spending $5K, I'd buy the D3. I wouldn't even consider a M8.
Early last winter a small set of people spent lots of time and $$$ trying to figure out how to get useful color images from the M8. Some of them justified these efforts by claiming their commercial photography clients insisted on the very best quality. When the D3 hits the streets (assuming it lives up to the hype... which is an assumption at this point) I can't wait to find out if any of those people switch. Of course the M8 has the M aesthetic and the D3 is a large, heavy, loud SLR. Buwt for commercial photography a SLR has very few disadvantages over the more efficient and less intimidating M body.
I also can't wait to see how the D3 performs with manual focus Nikkors and Zeiss ZF glass. I hate to use lenses without a DOF scales.
Early last winter a small set of people spent lots of time and $$$ trying to figure out how to get useful color images from the M8. Some of them justified these efforts by claiming their commercial photography clients insisted on the very best quality. When the D3 hits the streets (assuming it lives up to the hype... which is an assumption at this point) I can't wait to find out if any of those people switch. Of course the M8 has the M aesthetic and the D3 is a large, heavy, loud SLR. Buwt for commercial photography a SLR has very few disadvantages over the more efficient and less intimidating M body.
I also can't wait to see how the D3 performs with manual focus Nikkors and Zeiss ZF glass. I hate to use lenses without a DOF scales.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
I didn't vote to signify "Neither".
DISCLAIMER: I am not a sports-photographer, if I were one, I'd probably vote for the D3.
For me, neither cameras is attractive in the least bit. Both are overpriced and they won't produce images that are proportionally better as they are more expensive than my current cameras.
If I want quality digital at similar prices, I'll get a used Contax 645, and a used digital-back.
If I want to get higher quality, I'd stay with 120 film
DISCLAIMER: I am not a sports-photographer, if I were one, I'd probably vote for the D3.
For me, neither cameras is attractive in the least bit. Both are overpriced and they won't produce images that are proportionally better as they are more expensive than my current cameras.
If I want quality digital at similar prices, I'll get a used Contax 645, and a used digital-back.
If I want to get higher quality, I'd stay with 120 film
bunkawen14
A Glimpse of the World
The irrepressible Ken Rockwell has a pretty sensible answer here:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/lens-or-camera.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/lens-or-camera.htm
350D_user
B+W film devotee
I vote for neither. The D3 looks incredibly cumbersome, the M8 is... nah... definitely neither.
wolves3012
Veteran
Seconded. I have neither the budget or the desire for either. Both are grossly over-priced and overrated IMO. Plus they'll likely be outdated in a short time.350D_user said:I vote for neither. The D3 looks incredibly cumbersome, the M8 is... nah... definitely neither.
gb hill
Veteran
Neither, I like the Canon G9. But if I must I would choose the M8 because I don't like big bulky dslr's.
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eon
Established
I already have the M8 and my D3 will be delivered very soon.
Both are the best i could buy and they complement each other very well.
Of course it's both stupid and cumbersome to have more than one camera, but i can't help it. At least there is only two for me now.
/Erik
Both are the best i could buy and they complement each other very well.
Of course it's both stupid and cumbersome to have more than one camera, but i can't help it. At least there is only two for me now.
/Erik
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