mdwsta4
Matty Westside
Whenever I drive through Hollywood I make it appoint to stop into Freestyle Photo and pick up some film. I'll almost always buy 5 or 10 rolls of Arista Premium 400 just because. When I talked to them yesterday I came to find out that they no longer carry 36 exp. They only have 24 exp left. When asked, they said they're no longer doing business with them?
Is there anywhere else to find the 36 exp rolls for the same price? I'd much prefer them over 24 exp, but if both are going away, I guess I'll need to pick some up in bulk!
Is there anywhere else to find the 36 exp rolls for the same price? I'd much prefer them over 24 exp, but if both are going away, I guess I'll need to pick some up in bulk!
NazgulKing
Established
Arista Premium is a Freestyle brand. If they don't have it, that's all there is to it.
Vics
Veteran
They are selling Tri-X for $4.39/36exp.
mdwsta4
Matty Westside
I didn't realize that, thank you.
Tri-X isn't a problem to get ahold of, but at half the cost, the Arista 400 was a great deal!
I guess the follow up question will be if any other companies do (or will) offer rebranded Tri-X?
Tri-X isn't a problem to get ahold of, but at half the cost, the Arista 400 was a great deal!
I guess the follow up question will be if any other companies do (or will) offer rebranded Tri-X?
Jan Pedersen
Well-known
Something is not right here. If you were told that they no longer are doing business with the supplier of the Arista Premium line of film that means they are no longer doing business with Kodak.
Are Freestyle giving up on Kodak or does the person that told you this not know any better?
Sounds a bit suspicious.
Are Freestyle giving up on Kodak or does the person that told you this not know any better?
Sounds a bit suspicious.
bonatto
looking out
Brian Legge
Veteran
Jan, more likely that Kodak had excess film stock on hand and allowed Freestyle and others to buy it at a lower price and resell it under their brand. If demand matched their Kodaks production they probably wouldn't have any reason to see to resellers.
This is probably less about the Freestyle/Kodak relationship and more about Kodak getting supply and demand in sync.
This is probably less about the Freestyle/Kodak relationship and more about Kodak getting supply and demand in sync.
Jan Pedersen
Well-known
Brian, You are probably right and with the Kodak film division now on other hands or with a different management they may no longer want to sell re-branded film and essentially compete with their own Kodak brand.
Mackinaw
Think Different
Or it may be that the Kodak no longer wants to compete with itself. The new Kodak (the pension folks) may decide to no longer provide Freestyle with re-badged Tri-X. In the future, if you want Tri-X, you're going to have to buy Tri-X, and at Kodak's price. At least that's one theory.
Jim B.
Noll
Well-known
There was a thread here several months back noting the end of the relationship between Freestyle and Kodak. It was reported then that they had a few hundred thousand rolls in stock and that would be it. I think Tom A was responsible for snatching up a small percentage of that inventory....
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127422&highlight=arista+premium
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127422&highlight=arista+premium
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Joe Vitessa
Well-known
This is a bummer. Knew it couldn't last forever, but I was hoping it would. Apparently, they have "a lot" of 24-count rolls left.
Shac
Well-known
I'm new to Freestyle film - so how does Arista EDU Ultra 400 compare to Arista Premium 400?
Thanks for input
Thanks for input
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
EDU Ultra is really Foma film. If you like Foma's products, the Freestyle stuff is an even better deal than the already-inexpensive Foma. Arista Premium 400 is Tri-X.
gb hill
Veteran
Just looked on Freestyles website & all the 100 & 400 Arista EDU film is sold out & not expected til Dec.6.
Shac
Well-known
Chris - thanks for your reply - I haven't used EDU Ultra - have you?
nhchen
Nathan
Now I feel lucky I bought 30 rolls of Arista Premium last month.
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
I've used the 100 and 400 Arista EDU.Ultra and the Foma 100 and 400. They're identical. The 100 has really nice tonality; the 400 is ok, but I prefer just about every other 400 film I have tried. Both the 100 and 400 are fairly grainy compared to similar speed films. The big downer to me is that both films curl really badly in the 120 size.
Here's some examples:
Foma 100/Arista EDU Ultra 100 developed in PMK. 120 size.
Foma 100/Arista EDU Ultra 100 developed in D-76 1+1. 120 size.
Foma 100/Arista EDU Ultra 100 developed in D-76 1+1. 120 size.
Foma 100/Arista EDU Ultra 100 developed in D-76 1+1. 120 size.
I like the tonality of the 100. It is slightly grainier than Ilford FP4, a lot grainier than Tmax 100. I get a speed of 100 out of it in D-76 1+1, but only 40 in PMK. I have not used it in 35mm, just 120. It takes months of sitting under heavy books to remove the severe curl, which makes it really hard to get into a film scanner or an enlarger. I'd use more of it if it were not for that. I use Ilford FP4 instead.
Shac
Well-known
Again many thanks Chris - this is excellent information.
Noll
Well-known
Chris - It's interesting you get issues with curl. I've shot a bunch of Arista Edu 100 in 35mm and 120 over the last year and not had that problem. It's not as flat as Acros or Tmax, but nothing my negative carriers can't handle. I use Caffenol CM developer.
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
It always curls up tight as soon as I take the weights off after it dries....it reforms itself back the tight could it was on the spool. I haven't used any in a year so maybe they've changed that.