asking permission to take photo... lol

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Best Rejection of 2012:

"Excuse me, do you mind I take your photo?"
"You crazy? I've got four detectives and a wife looking for me."
 
My wife told me tonight I needed to ask her permission from now on to take her photo. That taking her photo in the store while looking for a birthday present & being dressed the way she was, was rude. Then she started on her "you don't love me kick" & to make it worse I started laughing. BTW Jan 1 will be our 25th wedding anniversary.:)
 
gb hill said:
BTW Jan 1 will be our 25th wedding anniversary.:)
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you better make it good haha. :)

for me, i remember i was in Washington Square Park one nice afternoon (and a rare day off), and this performer from a Jazz group got real mad at me for taking his photo.

I wasn't even taking his picture, but of his band member's string bass. He went on a rant on how people pay him all the time to take his photo in magazines. I bet I must've rolled my eyes, or straight ignored him.

I admit I was being a jerk, but mainly because he was one first. I took the picture anyway and he yelled at me. I ducked out because it could have definitely gotten physical.
 
I think when it comes to street performers as long as you drop some $$ in the hat you can shoot away...I've had several give me the stink-eye until I paid my dues...

Hey Greg...so you cannot take her picture BUT she can go out in public "Being dressed the way she was..." anywho Congrats on your upcoming Anniversary...
 
gb hill said:
...BTW Jan 1 will be our 25th wedding anniversary.:)
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Congrats ...

... BTW it will be the 15th anniversary from my "adorable child bride" (she's 52 to my 61) and I. Isn't it nice that so many people throw parties to count down to our anniversaries?
 
The big problem that I have with asking permission is that the subject then looks like he is having his picture taken.
 
nikon_sam said:
I think when it comes to street performers as long as you drop some $$ in the hat you can shoot away...I've had several give me the stink-eye until I paid my dues...
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Paying money to take someone's picture? Please...
They should be honored people even want to take their pictures.
I'm sure you've heard of the vulgar Elmo in Times Square that will hassle people if you take his picture without giving him money. Yeah, these people need to learn a little bit about First Amendment law... if you're in the public, you have no expectation of privacy, and thus people are free to photograph you.
 
Mike Ip said:
Paying money to take someone's picture? Please...
They should be honored people even want to take their pictures.
I'm sure you've heard of the vulgar Elmo in Times Square that will hassle people if you take his picture without giving him money. Yeah, these people need to learn a little bit about First Amendment law... if you're in the public, you have no expectation of privacy, and thus people are free to photograph you.
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Please, "these people need to learn a little bit about First Amendment law"? You're missing the point. They're making money by performing, you take their picture, okay, that is fine (by the first amendment to you Americans and article 10 ECHR for us Europeans), but why not contribute a little to these people - just like everybody else enjoying their performance. It is not paying for taking their picture, it is just a little courtesy, try it, you might like it :eek:
 
Mike Ip said:
Paying money to take someone's picture? Please...
They should be honored people even want to take their pictures.
I'm sure you've heard of the vulgar Elmo in Times Square that will hassle people if you take his picture without giving him money. Yeah, these people need to learn a little bit about First Amendment law... if you're in the public, you have no expectation of privacy, and thus people are free to photograph you.
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Hey I think I'll use the 1st Amendment on my wife.;)

Thank you to everyone on our 25th. I got to buy something silver so it will probably be a bag of Hersheys Kisses.:D
 
Addy101 said:
Please, "They're making money by performing, you take their picture, okay, that is fine (by the first amendment to you Americans and article 10 ECHR for us Europeans), but why not contribute a little to these people - just like everybody else enjoying their performance. It is not paying for taking their picture, it is just a little courtesy, try it, you might like it :eek:
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I'm not villifying anyone that wants to give them money, I just don't.
I'm a photojournalist, I don't pay for pictures. It would actually be considered unethical if I were to give them money and then take their picture and try to pass it off as something "editorial."
 
PKR said:
I think it depends a lot on the situation. I recently photographed someone who was doing something that was illegal. I left my cameras packed and approached this guy and explained that I wanted to photograph him and what he was doing. We agreed on where I would stand and I helped him adjust his mask so that his ID would be kept secret. He proceeded with his actions and I got several good images.

So, laugh if you like. It depends on the situation. If I had photographed with out asking, it may have become a physical problem. I didn't want that kind of thing and no photo is worth that to me. If the guy hadn't agreed, I would have left the scene. It was a very remote site and any call for help would have been useless.
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This is true.

And sometimes, publishing a photo can be a danger to one of the people in the picture (an endangered child or battered ex-girl friend) . I'll spare you the details, but this happens. Before you make your picture available to the general public (like local newspapers) you should be sure that it will not do more harm than good.

No one wants to inhibit your rights as a photographer, or the public's "right to know", but then again, the situation can be more complex than you think it is.
 
Mike Ip said:
I'm not villifying anyone that wants to give them money, I just don't.
I'm a photojournalist, I don't pay for pictures. It would actually be considered unethical if I were to give them money and then take their picture and try to pass it off as something "editorial."
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It is your choice (or your professions), but don't expect them to like you. That is their right ;)
 
PKR said:
The TV networks commonly pay "talent" for editorial interviews. Many are in the guise of flying the guest and family first class and providing the best rooms in the best hotels in NY or LA + a fee. The stay may be much longer than just needed for the interview. So, what do you call that kind of thing?
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Broadcast has always been a gray area... They claim they don't pay for interviews or whatnot, but they're not fooling anyone. I personally think it's unethical, but I come from a newspaper background.
 
This has nothing to do with rights and laws, just manners. Some people care about manners and some don't. I would never occupy two seats on the London Underground, some people will. It's not about laws/rights it's simply the unwritten social contract that we have with one another to not be *too* selfish.

You don't *have* to give money to a street performer for talking a picture, but it *is* basic manners, the acknowledgement that you gained something from taking a picture and you're saying a simple thank you of a few dollars.
 
As a joke- a friend of mine was taking a photo of a street musician. He claimed for some money and my friend gave him an euro. Then in his turn he asked for money too - his photo would be an advertisment for the musician! So it is either way. :))
 
PKR said:
I think it depends a lot on the situation. I recently photographed someone who was doing something that was illegal. I left my cameras packed and approached this guy and explained that I wanted to photograph him and what he was doing. We agreed on where I would stand and I helped him adjust his mask so that his ID would be kept secret. He proceeded with his actions and I got several good images.

So, laugh if you like. It depends on the situation. If I had photographed with out asking, it may have become a physical problem. I didn't want that kind of thing and no photo is worth that to me. If the guy hadn't agreed, I would have left the scene. It was a very remote site and any call for help would have been useless.
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what was he doing, what kind of crime was it?
 
I take sometimes photos of street musicians. Why? Because I love music but I'm not able to play it. Therefore this is a way to connect myself to the music. And for this reason it seems me a natural thing to give him some money. I like to do it.
robert
 
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