Canon P 25th Anniversary Canon Eagle 1962

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Up for sale on ebay for a stoking €1200 + 21.5% fee ( + 16% tax on the fee!)

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/19...28221QQitemZ6606775148QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD2V

"Canon P 25th Anniversary "Canon Eagle" engraved on the top plate, very limited number of cameras was only given to Canon key staff. With body cap. - Top rarity!"

What's that Joe? Your selling all your other cameras to buy this? Ok.....

It sure makes the P I've got for sale at the moment a bargain at £265 including a good 50 (shameless plug)!

Robin.
 
CanonRFinder said:
Check the pic in Peter Decherts book on page 185 (if you have one) and then the pic of the "eagle" on the auction site. The proof is all in the "eye". Peter K
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Ah, yes, I see what you mean, O eagle-eyed one. The shape of the eagle's head and the style of the Canon lettering appear to be a bit "off," too.

Maybe the engraving department had drunk one too many 25th Anniversary toasts before somebody sat down to do this particular eagle... but more prosaic explanations seem at least as likely...

Gotta admit I like the spiffy black-and-red body cap. Wonder if I could bodge up one on my own...?
 
That is a very well done one. Certainly makes me worried that some of the better zorki/fed molesters might be trying to move up in the world...

William
 
jlw said:
Ah, yes, I see what you mean, O eagle-eyed one. The shape of the eagle's head and the style of the Canon lettering appear to be a bit "off," too.

Maybe the engraving department had drunk one too many 25th Anniversary toasts before somebody sat down to do this particular eagle... but more prosaic explanations seem at least as likely...

Gotta admit I like the spiffy black-and-red body cap. Wonder if I could bodge up one on my own...?
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Sake or Schnaps or maybe the odd tipple of Vodka, but I would put my bet on the later two!!!
 
that eagle engraving is different than the one in Dechert's book. the one in the book has a line to seperate the eagles beak from the body at the left side and the eye is not tilted.
 
Someone may want to try and warn them about this. Passing it off to a collector accidently is going to look bad for them. I don't see a collector falling for it, though.
 
Hi,
Pay attention on the bic of the eagle. In Dchert´s book the eagles bic is pointing to the right and in the camera listing the bic is pointing to the left. I can also see that the Canon letters are not even (some bigger than other)! Is this correct??
 
I am not sure how the serial numbers went but I would expect a special series to come from similar numbers. The number on this one is in the 753xx area whereas the one in Dechart's book is 768xxx

Kim
 
I checked the Dechert book too, and agree that this particular bird looks a bit strange.

Peter K, do you have a schedule for your book project? I am really looking forward to buying one.

dexdog
 
One of these, serial number 724876, was sold at a Westlicht Auction in 2003. The enlarged pic is identical to the one being offered in this thread. That seems to make a lot available of a camera that most people have never seen.

I admit to never looking at the Dechert photo as closely as some others here. Never figuring I'd own one was probably the biggest reason. There is definitely something wrong with either the Dechert or the others that have been offered recently.

Does sound like some funny (not so ha..ha..) business.

Harry
 
Stephanie Brim said:
Someone may want to try and warn them about this. Passing it off to a collector accidently is going to look bad for them. I don't see a collector falling for it, though.
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At least one collector, back in 2003, evidently fell for one. If this is, indeed, a fake.
The Dechert pic is taken at an angle, which makes the eagle's head and beak hard to see. A quick look seems OK, which is dangerous at these prices.

Wonder why there has been dead silence on this until now.

Harry
 
dexdog said:
I checked the Dechert book too, and agree that this particular bird looks a bit strange.

Peter K, do you have a schedule for your book project? I am really looking forward to buying one.

dexdog
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The serif in the C as in Canon is diffrent as well.

For the past month, when I get a chance I have been spotting and resizing close on 300 pic on Photoshop ready for placement in the book. Sorry this has taken so long but self publishing is a lot bigger job than I ever expected it was.
 
I contacted the seller and asked if they had a "history" of the camera. The reply I received said that they had no information as to the authenticity of the camera!

Kim
 
How can they sell something like that?? The public auction houses are carefully regulated here in the US, usually by city or state laws or regulations. In the case of philatelic auctions, no dealer wants to sell forged goods. It is very bad for the reputation, and results in a refund of the purchase price. Normally, the buyer must submit to a recognized authority. That could be a problem with cameras. Who would be such an authority?

I guess this seller goes on my list as not high priority, at least. I didn't read any small print, but if they sell "as-is", it becomes too much of a crap shoot. All too typical of whats been happening on the auctions. I guess buying from this group really does pay dividends.....

Harry
 
How about another take on this. Maybe the engraving as pictured in the Dechert book is wrong and this eBay offering is the legitimate version.

We really don't know much about these special production cameras. We're not even sure Canon used a standard "eagle" template when they engraved these very few P cameras. Maybe all the engraving was done freehand.

Just food for thought.

Jim Bielecki
 
HI Jim, I think in the days that Peter D took his pics for his book, copies of anything other than a Leica Luxus were fairly uncommon. Now Leicas are copied "ad hock" and funny enough are becoming collectable in themselves. There have been efforts to repaint Model P cameras but usually there is some indication that they are fakes. Sometime ago a 35mm f3.2 wide angle lens #71061 appeared on eBay, painted in glorious BLACK. I have been recording most Canon serial numbers since 1997, almost when eBay started and have made a special effort in recording all wide angle lenses. So when this lens appeared I checked my database and had that serial number recorded as a chrome lens and usually when an item appears on the auction site and has some notable variation I will record it. In this case I recorded the # but nothing else so when I sent a query to the guy the lens was withdrawn with no contact from the seller and since then the lens has never come back. I record if the lens has MIOJ, EP, CPO or anything that is out of the ordinary, so maybe my database has some use besides what I originally intended it to do for me. This is the third 25th Anniversary camera body to appear on this auction site.....................no more said.
 
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