Close-ups of aperture and shutter operation

The way this camera is being marketed/promoted is bizarre.

Before long there will be planes flying over cities dropping propaganda leaflets ... and loud speakers on towers blaring out information about the X100's virtues!

:D
 
I actually think I would much prefer to set aperture with a command wheel on the back of the camera, like a DSLR, instead of the lens barrel.
 
NickTrop said:
I actually think I would much prefer to set aperture with a command wheel on the back of the camera, like a DSLR, instead of the lens barrel.
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Seriously, I really hate that stuff. This is the first digital camera that I find interesting, just because of the regular (old school) manual operation. If somebody gave a Canon 5D I would just sell it and buy a 35mm f1.4 lens for my Rolleiflex SL35.
But this camera I might actually buy and use it only for color, and Sl35 only for B&W.
 
Weird video:

If the diaphragm coses when pressing the shutter release to its first stop (and I suppose it is doing autofocus too), then the sensor will (a) receive less light, making AF more difficult), and (b) the sensor will see more DOF, making accurate focusing even more difficult.

Can anybody offer some more explanation? IMO, this way of operating seems somewhat absurd to me.
 
I assume that half pressing the shutter button does the AF and closes the blades ? For pre-focus and recompose ....

Do I count 8 or 9 blades in the lens ? (9 would be nice).

Keith said:
The way this camera is being marketed/promoted is bizarre.
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Leica-style, Keith.
 
tapesonthefloor said:
(Though regrettably the digital shutter noise is still turned on. Blech.)[/SIZE]
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We've been having this conversation on Twitter already, but I'm not hearing a digital shutter noise there myself; I think if it was it would be much louder than the 'snick' of the aperture blades. They sound pretty similar in volume to me on that video- and both much softer than the horrible beep that was turned off for the second half of the recording...
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Catto said:
We've been having this conversation on Twitter already, but I'm not hearing a digital shutter noise there myself; I think if it was it would be much louder than the 'snick' of the aperture blades. They sound pretty similar in volume to me on that video- and both much softer than the horrible beep that was turned off for the second half of the recording...
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I could go either way. I *think* it sounds like a digital shutter noise is being plaid, it sounds tinny and fake anyway.

I just don't understand why they bothered with a video this way. Do they really leave the audio cues on for shooting this thing? They would get annoying as hell after 5 seconds. The only excuse would be if the aspects of firmware that allow you to turn it off isn't finished yet.
 
Definitely a weird little video.
I'm assuming the aperture starts full open to acquire CDAF and then closes down to the chosen aperture, all occurring at half press.
Thats some fast AF.
I dig the video, its totally gear-head porn.
 
fdigital said:
I highly doubt that's an electronic shutter sound. Sounds very mechanical to me.
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I think logically it is there. Why would a camera maker add an audio beep to the aperture change (really, wtf is up with that?) but not an audio shutter noise? Most cameras have only a shutter sound, so if they go to the trouble of adding beeps and blurbles to all the other functions, you can rest assured there is an audio shutter noise, and if the fujiguys don't have sense enough (or possibly the ability in current firmware) to turn off the audio cues for aperture change, I doubt they would turn off the shutter sound.
 
Arjay said:
Weird video:

If the diaphragm coses when pressing the shutter release to its first stop (and I suppose it is doing autofocus too), then the sensor will (a) receive less light, making AF more difficult), and (b) the sensor will see more DOF, making accurate focusing even more difficult.

Can anybody offer some more explanation? IMO, this way of operating seems somewhat absurd to me.
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I believe the shutter action sequence is:
  1. Shutter opened for O/EVF + AF-S/C and AE
  2. Upon tripping shutter...sensor acquires last AF+AE data
  3. Shutter/diaphragm close + IF
  4. Shutter O/C [exposure]
  5. Shutter reopens...
The X100 shutter lag is said to be 0.01s or ~10ms. This time budget will have to accommodate Actions 2 and 3. Action 2 is electronic and lightning fast, that leaves almost all 10ms for Action 3.

The X100 is capable of 5F/s. Even if the shutter is set at 1/15s or ~66ms, 5 exposures only requires ~333ms...plenty of time left for 5 sets of Action 3.

This video is the first useful video to me.
 
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Frankie said:
I believe the shutter action sequence is:
  1. Shutter opened for O/EVF + AF-S/C and AE
  2. Sensor acquires last AF+AE data
  3. Shutter/diaphragm close + IF
  4. Shutter O/C [exposure]
  5. Shutter reopens...
The X100 shutter lag is said to be 0.01s or ~10ms. This time budget will have to accommodate Actions 2 and 3. Action 2 is electronic and lightning fast, that leaves almost all 10ms for Action 3.

The X100 is capable of 5F/s. Even if the shutter is set at 1/15s or ~66ms, 5 exposures only requires ~333ms...plenty of time left for 5 sets of Action 3
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Another thing I just thought of. This video could be the behavior only in that "ovf with elect" mode the fujiguys spoke of earlier. Where when you half press you get a preview of the exposure (which would require either a digital fake of the aperture affect, or the more likely we are seeing here, a manual closing of the aperture like a dof preview button). It's possible that without that mode enabled (ovf with elect), the aperture only closes upon full shutter press.
 
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