Color-film trials, Fujicolor Industrial 100 (& Industrial 400)

[znapper]

I heard you people were complaining about film getting more expensive.
- It is 🙂

But here's a lesser known ISO 100, 35mm color-film from Fuji.

Cost $3,90 per 36 exp roll.

Not a bad film either 🙂

Have a looksie on my blog if you like: http://helino-photo.blogspot.no/2016/02/fujicolor-industrial-100-trials.html

 

[Volver]

Nice review!

A really good film, that you can buy on a Japanese yahoo market for USD 2.6-3 for sets of 100 to 10 x 36.

The more remarkable film for me is Fujicolor Industrial 400, faster but with almost same grain as ISO 100 film, which is slightly expensive, i bought a set of 20x36 for USD 70.

These films are far better than cheap superia xtra films.

Here are some examples (portraits), also note that films were self developed at home:

Fujicolor industrial 400, Contax T3


Fujicolor industrial 100, Summicron Rigid


Fujicolor industrial 100, Konica M-Hexanon 28/2.8

 

[Sarcophilus Harrisii]

I heard you people were complaining about film getting more expensive.
- It is 🙂

But here's a lesser known ISO 100, 35mm color-film from Fuji.

Cost $3,90 per 36 exp roll.

Not a bad film either 🙂

Have a looksie on my blog if you like: http://helino-photo.blogspot.no/2016/02/fujicolor-industrial-100-trials.html

Some people might have been complaining, not all of us. There are film photographers who prefer to simply get on with the business of shooting it, enjoy the medium, and try to be good ambassadors for it by talking it up, not down. Nobody is, as far as I'm aware, forcing anyone to shoot with film, personally I wish those who want to use it would just use it and as much as they can—if complaining about the cost online is more important than photographing then, perhaps they should consider alternative imaging options because it would probably be a win/win for all parties. Comments not directed at any particular person, more, a response to years of moaning and whinging on the web by people who tend, on the whole, to get in the way of the rest of us who love film, wish to see it do as well as possible, and just want to keep on using it.

Having said that it's always great to see images from an unfamiliar (to me) film that look so good. Thanks for sharing these. What formats are they available in? 35mm and only 35mm?
Cheers
Brett

 

[jonmanjiro]

Nice review!

A really good film, that you can buy on a Japanese yahoo market for USD 2.6-3 for sets of 100 to 10 x 36.

The more remarkable film for me is Fujicolor Industrial 400, faster but with almost same grain as ISO 100 film, which is slightly expensive, i bought a set of 20x36 for USD 70.

These films are far better than cheap superia xtra films.

On the side of a single film box is printed "この商品は業務用にセットされたもので、単体では販売しておりません" which translates to "This product is packaged in bulk for business use, and is not for sale on its own." so I've always assumed that the Fujifilm ISO 100 and ISO 400 記憶用/業務用 films are just Fujicolor 100 and Fujicolor Superia X-TRA 400 repackaged in simple packaging for bulk selling to businesses at a lower price than the standard package versions. I don't remember seeing any official comments by Fujifilm about it, but that seems to be the general consensus in Japan too. I've used both these "for business use" versions and the standard packaged versions and have never noticed any difference between them, not that I was looking for any differences though. I'd be very interested to hear about the differences you see?!

As a side note, the packaging does indeed look kinda industrial but in this case "for business use" is a more accurate translation of 業務用 than "industrial" IMO, despite what its called on some Japan-based reseller websites.

 

[znapper]

Having said that it's always great to see images from an unfamiliar (to me) film that look so good. Thanks for sharing these. What formats are they available in? 35mm and only 35mm?
Cheers
Brett

35mm only.
It's the only 100 ISO color film from Fuji in 35mm at the moment.
I was initially looking at http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/ , but they sell packs of 100 _only_

This is too much for me, so I looked around for a place where you can buy a lower amount and ended up buying 25 rolls from
http://camerafilmphoto.com/

100 rolls is way too much 🙂

 

[znapper]

On the side of a single film box is printed "この商品は業務用にセットされたもので、単体では販売しておりません" which translates to "This product is packaged in bulk for business use, and is not for sale on its own." so I've always assumed that the Fujifilm ISO 100 and ISO 400 記憶用/業務用 films are just Fujicolor 100 and Fujicolor Superia X-TRA 400 repackaged in simple packaging for bulk selling to businesses at a lower price than the standard package versions. I don't remember seeing any official comments by Fujifilm about it, but that seems to be the general consensus in Japan too. I've used both these "for business use" versions and the standard packaged versions and have never noticed any difference between them, not that I was looking for any differences though. I'd be very interested to hear about the differences you see?!

As a side note, the packaging does indeed look kinda industrial but in this case "for business use" is a more accurate translation of 業務用 than "industrial" IMO, despite what its called on some Japan-based reseller websites.

That is a very interesting analysis, I have no experience with Fujicolor 100 and X-TRA 400, so I really cannot tell myself, although I suspect the film to be something similar to Freestyle's repackaged 'EDU' and "premium" type films. (which proved to be Foma and Tri-X), maybe aimed at education or similar.

I do think that the Industrial-films are consumer-level type films though.

When compared to my old scans from Fuji Reala, it was remarkable how different they were in the grain characteristics.
I guess I came into the game too late to have anything else to compare the 'Industrial' with 🙂

 

[Volver]

I'd be very interested to hear about the differences you see?!

I've never used Superia 100 to compare the films, but "business use" 400 had much less grain in comparison to Superia xtra 400 i've been using. Also, Superia 400 had higher contrast and pinched reds.

 

[GarageBoy]

Everytime I try and move beyond 35mm color negative - someone posts results like these... I need to learn to edit

 

[btgc]

What are edge codes of industrial business film?

 

[znapper]

What are edge codes of industrial business film?

 

[znapper]

Fujicolor industrial 400, Contax T3

Wow, that's very impressive for 400 ISO.....hmm, maybe I should pull the trigger on the 400 too? ^^

 

[Finglas]

Impressive images, thanks for this thread as I never heard of this film before and I'm using Fuji film for over 30 years.

It's not often I post in RFF (but I read it 4-5 times a week) so I have to give thanks here to the contributors and those that posted the links. I will need to try find some of this film - so many thanks guys for all the info here.

 

[jonmanjiro]

Taken from the Fujicolor 100 data sheet available here. Close, but not quite the same.... very interesting indeed!

So curiosity got the better of me 😀 Same films? I'll find out soon!
Interestingly, all these films are the same thickness - 0.14 mm thick.

 

[jonmanjiro]

So curiosity got the better of me 😀 Same films? I'll find out soon!

The results are in for the ISO 400 films.

Fuji Business/Industrial 400 (top) and Fuji Superia 400 X-TRA (current Japanese version - bottom) have the same latent image barcode = same film!!!

Interestingly, the latent image barcode shown in the data sheet for Superia X-TRA 400 (downloadable here) doesn't match what's actually on the film!

 

[Volver]

The results are in for the ISO 400 films.

Thanks for the survey!

I found out that importers import no more Fuji Superia 400 to Russia, only C200 or "pro" films like Pro400H and slides. The last superia 400 that i've used was in 2012. By the way, i like "Industrial" for great colors even more than Kodak Portra and Fuji Pro400H that have subdued color palette.

 

[Huss]

The results are in for the ISO 400 films.

Fuji Business/Industrial 400 (top) and Fuji Superia 400 X-TRA (current Japanese version - bottom) have the same latent image barcode = same film!!!

Interestingly, the latent image barcode shown in the data sheet for Superia X-TRA 400 (downloadable here) doesn't match what's actually on the film!

Excellent sleuthing! Kinda funny that some think it's a different/better/special film.
All these films are great. They are just packaged/marketed differently.

 

[ForestCap]

There was a hype for this 業 film in Chinese networks several years ago. Since people who showed the results all used different scanning methods, there were lots of "oh this film looks quite different from..", as you could imagine 🙂.


One debunking post I read said that it's re-branded Fujicolor C100.

Some users reported the price for this film in Japan was $1.54 per roll. That's 3 years ago though.

 

[jonmanjiro]

Thanks for the survey!

I found out that importers import no more Fuji Superia 400 to Russia, only C200 or "pro" films like Pro400H and slides. The last superia 400 that i've used was in 2012. By the way, i like "Industrial" for great colors even more than Kodak Portra and Fuji Pro400H that have subdued color palette.

The current Japanese version was released in August 2011, so I'd say there's a good chance the Superia 400 you used in 2012 was a previous version of the film, which would account for the differences you're seeing. I too quite like the subdued colors of Industrial 400/current version X-TRA. And the film scans so nicely!

Excellent sleuthing! Kinda funny that some think it's a different/better/special film.
All these films are great. They are just packaged/marketed differently.

Thanks!

There was a hype for this 業 film in Chinese networks several years ago. Since people who showed the results all used different scanning methods, there were lots of "oh this film looks quite different from..", as you could imagine 🙂.


One debunking post I read said that it's re-branded Fujicolor C100.

Some users reported the price for this film in Japan was $1.54 per roll. That's 3 years ago though.

Wow, prices have more than doubled since then! Yodobashi Camera sells the ISO 100 業 film in boxes of 100 rolls for 36,380 yen, which works out to about US$3.22 a roll. A single roll of Fujicolor 100 135-36 film, which is (most likely) the same stuff in different packaging, from Yodobashi Camera is now 810 yen (US$7.15) !!!!!!!! 😱

Here's the second photo in the Fuj Business/Industrial 400 film strip above!

 

[Alpsman]

Thanks to znapper for this interesting thread.

Seems to be the same with Ilford Pan 100 & 400 which is here in Europe only available for business and industry but looked like FP4 & HP5. I've read some discussions in the net if it is the same or not.

 

[jonmanjiro]

The results are in for the ISO 100 films now, too! Same as with the ISO 400 films, Fuji Business/Industrial 100 (top) and Fujicolor 100 (current Japanese version - bottom) have the same latent image barcode = same film!!!

And just like Fuji Superia X-TRA 400, the latent image barcode shown in the data sheet for Fujicolor 100 (downloadable here) doesn't match what's actually on the film!