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Hi everyone,

I hope you all have a terrific weekend planned. I don't know if this has been discussed before, (I'm guessing it probably has), but I'm curious what films work best for cross-processing. I tend to shoot a lot of chrome, do ya'll have any suggestions? And better yet do ya'll have suggestions with photos to accompany?

Whatever you can tell me is really terrific and I'm grateful for your thoughts. Thanks very much. Speak soon.

Chris
 
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Totally a matter of preference. Fuji films tend to go more green or sometimes you get an intense red color cast with stuff like Velvia. Do some searching on Flickr to see see examples of different films.

There is a cross processing pool and you can usually figure out what people used by looking at the tags:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/crossprocessing/pool/

Personally, I really like Kodak Elite Chrome 100. I'm not a fan of the green color cast although I really like the intense contrast of cross processing so I usually scan my negs and post process in Photoshop.

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Thanks guys, I sincerely appreciate the input. I've cross-processed before with good results altough it's really interesting the look of neg film as slide. I think for my taste I prefer slide to neg as you get that really nice contrast and saturation. I'll run a few rolls of Kodak neg and report back. By the way, good suggestions about flickr.

Chris
 
Juan Valdenebro said:
Best slide films for developing with C-41 and get high contrast, saturated negatives, are low ISO (100) Kodak slide films... Better than other brands... Use one roll for testing a few scenes at -1, N and +1.
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I agree with Juan. But it depends what look you want.

Kodak E100 VS was what gave me the best results (IIRC). As Juan mentioned this will give you the contrast and saturation without the crazy colours that Fuji chrome will.
 
About the crazy colors with Fuji slide films, I think the color/saturation shift is very sensitive to the temperature of the light. I got horrifying green shades in fluorescent light, but very pleasant color saturation in bright sunlight.

A particular less-heard of Fuji Trebi (only available in Japan, supposedly an amateur version of Provia) has very subtle but pleasant color/saturation shift. But then, I haven't tried a lot of Kodak slides for cross-processing. The only one I had tried was a 15 year-expired Kodak Chrome 100.

Provia 400 cross-processed. This is the horrifying green shades put to good use:

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Provia 400 cross-processed with very pleasant color saturation.

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Fuji Trebi 400 cross-processed. You can hardly tell it is actually E2C.

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Lastly, my only Kodak Chrome 100 cross-processed. It had expired for 15 years when I shot with it.

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More on my flickr xproc tag.
 
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I cross process Kodak SP663 Edupe in C41. This is slide reproduction film, 50 ASA.

Got some nice files I will upload to my website tonight and post forward here.
 
very nice and creative!

very nice and creative!

I like the 2nd one best.

I took an E6 to Walgreens once, and they wouldn't do it as C41. Did you cross over the bar code?

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I did this once as a last-ditch effort to get more latitude when my meter battery died unexpectedly. Here's the story and photos:

http://omababe.blogspot.com/2007/10/cross-processing-bean.html

It was plain vanilla Sensia 200. I got it processed by going to Walgeens for a DO and played dumb. :) :)
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Can a C-41 film also be processed in E-6 ? I have some Agfa Portrait XPS 160 that's 6 years over date ... Is there any change it gives interesting results, or will it just be some gray mud or something alike ?

Obviously, I don't count on getting correct colors anyway ...

Stefan.
 
There is a discussion on flickr about C2E. It appears you need to push the film during development or overexpose it during the taking to avoid the murky color.


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Can a C-41 film also be processed in E-6 ? I have some Agfa Portrait XPS 160 that's 6 years over date ... Is there any change it gives interesting results, or will it just be some gray mud or something alike ?

Obviously, I don't count on getting correct colors anyway ...

Stefan.
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gliderbee said:
Can a C-41 film also be processed in E-6 ? I have some Agfa Portrait XPS 160 that's 6 years over date ... Is there any change it gives interesting results, or will it just be some gray mud or something alike ?

Obviously, I don't count on getting correct colors anyway ...

Stefan.
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The look is cold, flat and pastel-like... I don't like it.

Cheers,

Juan
 

35 1.4 Summilux


15 4.5 Voigtlander


50 1.0 Noctilux


15 Voigtlander

All shots taken with Leica M cameras

I often shoot E-6 and cross-process in C-41. It's fun and no one gets hurt :p. I like funky colours (not muted IMO :eek:) and the pictures have a look that no digital file can reproduce :D. Some of these have added grain from uploading. Clearly it's not a problem for me. I expose right the same at straight C-41 - or digital for that matter. I think it can get old so I usually cover my bases and expose another frame (time permitting) with the second M body I have with me.

Gregory
 
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I'd love to see the above shots which look very interesting with some decent scans. What's with the horrible pixilation?
 
Velvia 50 ... cross processed in home c41 kit.

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Thank you very much, Juan. I really appreciate it. Like you, I'm not really a big fan of the muddy colours of some cross-processed film. Exposure is key and I think a stop overexposed never hurts.

I used some Provia 100 as of late and I'm happy with the results. But I will use any slide film I find on the cheap to give me the bizarre colour of the E-6/C-41.
I like the part about playing dumb at the photo lab. "Oh, the container says E-6 but I loaded it with C-41 film ;)."
It's a little white lie and no one gets hurt.


Gregory
 
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