denizg7
Well-known
I want some advice from Nude shooters and statements..
In your words what do you think makes the difference between taking a picture of a naked person and a nude person..
I am planning on doing my first nude shots in my apartment and I really want to make the nude shots artful and not like ehm porn..
So I was thinking about using olive oil on some girls and stuff..
Anyway any advice from nude shooters feel free
oh btw I will shoot black and white thanks
In your words what do you think makes the difference between taking a picture of a naked person and a nude person..
I am planning on doing my first nude shots in my apartment and I really want to make the nude shots artful and not like ehm porn..
So I was thinking about using olive oil on some girls and stuff..
Anyway any advice from nude shooters feel free
oh btw I will shoot black and white thanks
Terry Christian
Established
According to the late Southern humorist Lewis Grizzard, there's "naked" and "nekkid."
"Naked" means you have no clothes on.
"Nekkid" means you have no clothes on and you're up to something. ;-)
"Naked" means you have no clothes on.
"Nekkid" means you have no clothes on and you're up to something. ;-)
David_Manning
Well-known
I'm thinking that clothes-free would be nude...as soon as you slather oil on the model, it's naked
denizg7
Well-known
Hmm I am just fearing that all my shots will be trashy naked without no class , if i just shoot them naked plain and simple...
and the lens I have is not a macro lens so i cant get close up focusing on body parts...
hmm i am going to plan this through
and the lens I have is not a macro lens so i cant get close up focusing on body parts...
hmm i am going to plan this through
lynnb
Veteran
Look at Edward Weston's or Willy Ronis's work - that's 'nude'. Their images treat the nude human form as a work of beauty to be appreciated as a work of art, rather than as an object offered purely for the sexual gratification of viewers (which dehumanises the subject). That's how I see the difference.
denizg7
Well-known
Look at Edward Weston's or Willy Ronis's work - that's 'nude'. Their images treat the nude human form as a work of beauty to be appreciated as a work of art, rather than as an object offered purely for the sexual gratification of viewers (which dehumanises the subject). That's how I see the difference.
thanks! this is what I needed. A bit traditional , but I have a better idea.
Michael Da Re
Well-known
Sorry, but I think if you have to ask this question maybe you should rethink what you want to photograph.
Just my 2 cents...........
Just my 2 cents...........
denizg7
Well-known
Sorry, but I think if you have to ask this question maybe you should rethink what you want to photograph.
Just my 2 cents...........
no I just didin't want to hurry into doing it carelessly...
In RFF we have a lot of different expert shooters and I always like to get advice from people who have done it before in the past and possibly learn a few things that they have learnt from their experience in the subject.
sorry for being inexperienced and not arrogant.
lynnb
Veteran
Weston and Ronis are just two photographers whose work immediately sprang to mind - of course there are other styles. It's the principle I had in mind.
Think about the use of light, and mood. Also, think about the relationship between you and your model. If it's respectful, your photos will reflect that, and will more likely be interpreted as 'nude' rather than 'naked'. 'Naked', to me, implies clinical observation which objectifies the subject. Others may interpret differently.
Frank Petronio shoots a quite different style of nude to the photographers mentioned above. But his work demonstrates the same principle of working with the models in a respectful manner - he works collaboratively with them to make photographs.
Think about the use of light, and mood. Also, think about the relationship between you and your model. If it's respectful, your photos will reflect that, and will more likely be interpreted as 'nude' rather than 'naked'. 'Naked', to me, implies clinical observation which objectifies the subject. Others may interpret differently.
Frank Petronio shoots a quite different style of nude to the photographers mentioned above. But his work demonstrates the same principle of working with the models in a respectful manner - he works collaboratively with them to make photographs.
raid
Dad Photographer
Joe will " catch me", or I would have said: show me side by side images to best compare!
I won't say it.
I won't say it.
Jack Conrad
Well-known
Naked hands rubbing olive oil on respectfully nude bodies works for me. 
enasniearth
Well-known
Naked - means no clothes caught unaware .
The other side is messed up don't care
Nude - means no clothes , comfortable with the situation
Mentally and physically . Calm spirit .
I've used up my two cents .
The other side is messed up don't care
Nude - means no clothes , comfortable with the situation
Mentally and physically . Calm spirit .
I've used up my two cents .
raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
nahhh...
bad lighting - porn
good lighting - naked
bad lighting but you know what you are doing - artistic nude
raytoei
bad lighting - porn
good lighting - naked
bad lighting but you know what you are doing - artistic nude
raytoei
f16sunshine
Moderator
Start simple
Start simple
There is no difference between nude or naked if your intentions are the same.
I suggest photographing your girlfriend for your first nude sets. You will objectify her less and the love and protection of her modesty will show in the images.
Otherwise it is nearly impossible to expect a young man to do a 1st nude shoot that exhibits no sign of objectification.
On the other hand objectification does not always exclude artistic expression.
Why shoot nude anyway?
I end up with nudity in a couple shoots per month but it's never my choice rather.... always the models act of expression or frustration or joy etc..
Maybe you should just jump in and get some experience rather than plan for something.
Find a model who needs work to fill up her portfolio. See what sort of exchange you are capable of building.
There is nothing worse than having a model go stiff unless it's one who has no clothes on
Start simple
There is no difference between nude or naked if your intentions are the same.
I suggest photographing your girlfriend for your first nude sets. You will objectify her less and the love and protection of her modesty will show in the images.
Otherwise it is nearly impossible to expect a young man to do a 1st nude shoot that exhibits no sign of objectification.
On the other hand objectification does not always exclude artistic expression.
Why shoot nude anyway?
I end up with nudity in a couple shoots per month but it's never my choice rather.... always the models act of expression or frustration or joy etc..
Maybe you should just jump in and get some experience rather than plan for something.
Find a model who needs work to fill up her portfolio. See what sort of exchange you are capable of building.
There is nothing worse than having a model go stiff unless it's one who has no clothes on
rawhead
Established
How's this for a definition? If the first things that draw you into the photo are *not* the sexual organs, then its nude 
Bill58
Native Texan
Seinfeld said, "There's good nude and there's bad nude".
paulfish4570
Veteran
i think this thread is a set-up.
first, film vs digital; now, nude vs naked ...
first, film vs digital; now, nude vs naked ...
Jack Conrad
Well-known
Crisco Oil reflects a sort of crude nakedness.
Pure Raw Coconut Oil on the other hand, is more indicative of tasteful nudity.
Pure Raw Coconut Oil on the other hand, is more indicative of tasteful nudity.
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