Monokrome
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Pickett Wilson
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Kodak tends to discontinue stuff suddenly and without warning. So, who knows.
cmdrzed
wallflower
What chemicals do you think have been (or about to be) discontinued?
ZeissFan
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What's the source of the rumor? Company rep? Some idiot with a blog? "My cousin whose best friend works for Kodak"?
I agree with "pickett" -- Kodak has halted production of some products rather quickly and with little warning.
I agree with "pickett" -- Kodak has halted production of some products rather quickly and with little warning.
payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
In the UK there's Ilford, an excellent alternative.
Pickett Wilson
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My theory is that Kodak is dumping their remaining stockpile of B&W film through Freestyle, so there could be something to a chemical rumor.
Monokrome
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I did provide a link in my post. Here it is again.
http://www.apug.org/forums/forum172/67864-discontinued-kodak-chemistry-products.html
Dave Wilkinson
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The RFF 'reliable source' is here again? 
pschauss
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FWIW, Kodak was handing out free film (Tmax 100 and 400) at their booth at the camera show in New York last week. That sounds like they are still promoting their film.
Erik L
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there is also a current rebate on black and white film
Pickett Wilson
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Kodak was pitching their B&W papers, too, right up to the day they stopped making them.
Whatever the cause, I'm glad they are selling B&W film through Freestyle. Good prices.
Whatever the cause, I'm glad they are selling B&W film through Freestyle. Good prices.
ZeissFan
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I read through the APUG thread, and apparently it involves large-volume containers of those chemicals. The smaller packets will continue to be available.
However, the original post on APUG failed to provide any useful information, which made it appear as some post out of the blue. And the original poster (on APUG) failed to follow up and explain where his information originated, which possibly came from Kodak. Or maybe not.
However, the original post on APUG failed to provide any useful information, which made it appear as some post out of the blue. And the original poster (on APUG) failed to follow up and explain where his information originated, which possibly came from Kodak. Or maybe not.
newspaperguy
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Stock up now.
I'm not recommending this, but I chanced upon a bottle of HC-110 that I had opened in 1982, used a bit, and then taped it shut for shipment when we moved here from "the other Washington," the state. Amazingly, it still works. And no, this was not cooled or frozen, just forgotten in a shipping box on a basement shelf.
I'm not recommending this, but I chanced upon a bottle of HC-110 that I had opened in 1982, used a bit, and then taped it shut for shipment when we moved here from "the other Washington," the state. Amazingly, it still works. And no, this was not cooled or frozen, just forgotten in a shipping box on a basement shelf.
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Al Kaplan
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HC-110, the American Rodinol! All that's missing is the red dye. Yup, the syrup seems to last forever.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
I don't think Kodak gives a ship about B&W or film at all. Good riddance if you ask me.
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Al Kaplan
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The world didn't end when the corner drugstore stopped selling quart size cans of powdered Microdol and DK-50. It survived DuPont closing down their sensitized products line of films and papers along with their chemical line-up. Photographers learned to cope with Ansco becoming GAF and then going bye-bye for good. Perutz is long gone. What really keeps changing is the distribution system. New products keep appearing. 800 numbers and the internet, together with UPS and FedEx allow access to a wider variety of products than the local shops could carry.
It's a contracting market with fewer people shooting film or wet printing, true, but ask yourself just how many hobbiest photographers were shooting, developing, and printing black and white in 1960? 1910?
It's a contracting market with fewer people shooting film or wet printing, true, but ask yourself just how many hobbiest photographers were shooting, developing, and printing black and white in 1960? 1910?
sepiareverb
genius and moron
No it didn't. But I'm tired of watching Kodak ease out of chemical photography. They should just drop it all and be done with it. When they stopped making B&W paper they lost me. This pretense that they are a chemical photography company is getting tiresome. I'm happily supporting Ilford and Moersch.
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ZeissFan
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I tend to feel the same way. If they want out of film photography, just do it for crying out loud. This death by inches is excruciating.
Then the rest of us who actually care about film photography can move on to something else.
Then the rest of us who actually care about film photography can move on to something else.
sojournerphoto
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Kodak's film manufacturing is able to produce very small runs these days, so they make what the market needs. If theya re selling film at a lower price throgh Freestyle then it is simply a way of increasing volume and reducing costs/increasing total profit. That's good for us all.
Mike
Pickett Wilson
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Mike, that just doesn't make sense. They could simply drop the price of their film with their own name on it without the conceit of selling it through Freestyle for less and take the profit margin for themselves. There is no logical reason I can think of for them to do what they are doing other than they are dumping existing film stock and thought they could do it without anyone finding out.