Do you have duplicate lenses in same focal lenght? Why? Why not?

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Am I among the small minority here at RFF for having multiple lenses for same or similar focal lengths as RF lenses?

I keep such duplicates because I like using them whenever it pleases me to do so. I don't actually need to have any duplicates.

What about you? Have you reduced your lens counts to reach a minimal set?

I am OK with what I am doing. I enjoy a lot to inspect and use high quality craftsmanship and superb optics.
 
I have a 35 Summicron and a 35/1,7 CV LTM which I used on my Bessa R (or on the M7 with adapter).

Than I have a 50 Summicron and the 50/F2 CV Heliar Anniversary Edition for the Bessa, but again I use it sometimes with adapter on the m7.

and a 50/1,4 AIS for my Nikon...

robert
 
Hello Robert. Your Summicron and the 35/1.7 should be quite different the way each renders images. Based on what I have read here about the two lenses, each lens is excellent. Your CV 50/2 Heliar gets mixed reviews from users at RFF, while the Summicron is a great lens in the eyes of most users, it seems.

I may have become a "collector and user of not too expensive lenses" over the years.
 
Raid, I'm like you in having way to many duplicates, but I delight in their different personalities. I am someone of modest means, but this has been my photography graduate school. 50's are my favorite focal length, but I have multiples of all the focal lengths in my M system. This is not true of my R and Nikon systems where I have only one of each. I sell some to buy others, but usually buy them back later.
 
I'm a little--but only a little--embarrassed to admit I have three 50mm lenses for my Leica M system.

I started with an early Rigid Summicron, which I acquired quite cheaply--it was hazy at first, and had a dodgy aperture ring. For not too much, I was able to get both problems fixed by the legendary Malcolm Taylor.

I grew to love this lens, the way it handled and the way it rendered (except for flare, which is a pretty common problem with most versions of the Summicron), but then my local camera crack dealer offered me a nice Version IV. So I traded in the Rigid on it.

As I missed the lens so much, even though the more modern lens was clearly better at wide apertures, I later acquired from him a very nice indeed later version of the Rigid when it came into his shop. However, when he then pushed on me a handsome 1964 era Summilux at a very reasonable price, I once again divested myself of the Rigid in trade.

However, that lens was so beautiful and I regretted yet again selling it. So later, when the new owner decided to return this very same lens to my dealer (to help pay for the purchase of a WATE), I couldn't help myself. I bought it back, and I don't intend to part with it.

So which one do I use? The Summilux is normally on the front of my M6 0.85. I actually like the look of its classic chrome on the black camera. And in most situations, it works wonderfully.

When I want ultimate sharpness at wide apertures (but don't need the full 1.4), I use the Version IV. And the Rigid normally lives on the front of my M3, for when I want to stroll about in daytime using Sunny F16 and experiencing the tactile and imaging joys of using possibly the most classic Leica combination. (I just make sure I'm careful about shooting contre jour.)

The lens that gets used the least is actually the Version IV, even though it is technically probably the best of the three. But the Nth degree of sharpness isn't usually important to me--I enjoy the process of making photographs as well as looking at them, and the other two lenses are certainly sharp enough. And they're simply more fun to shoot.

So if and when I decide to part with one, it will likely be the newest lens of the trio. But that sort of points up something else--to me, the lenses are like money in the bank (so long as they don't get lost or damaged). By that I mean, as I paid reasonable prices for them, I will be able to get back probably every penny (and maybe more) of what they cost me if I ever go to sell them. And effectively I'll have had the enjoyment of using them for free while they were in my possession.

At least that's how I rationalise it!
 
Currently I have three 35s', V5 Summicron, C-Biogon and a nice little Summaron 3.5 LTM. The reality is the Summicron is the only one I really need but the others offer a different experience in both handling and rendering. The Summicron was the first 35 acquired after retuning to using M cameras. It has had the most use and I still consider it my primary lens. The little Summaron is a tiny package but it is defiantly not a fast lens to use. I got the C-Biogon for a full time 35 on my M2. Except for the weird filter size, it's a great lens and is easy to use. Plus the Biogon offers third stops which is a bonus feature. Given the choice (and money) I would love to add a few more from a 35 Summilux to a Color-Skopar. In my case I would rather add lens than new bodies.
 
LTM glass is so plentiful and inexpensive, relative to modern M-mount, that I find it impossible not to have duplicates in focal lengths. Also, some duplicates are obtained to have choice, e.g. speed, so carrying an f2 (or slower) vs an f1.4; weight, so a collapsible vs a rigid. And then there is always aesthetics, chrome vs black!
 
Ihave some duplicate focal ranges for a couple of reasons.
For 50's it because I wanted or like %5 different "look" each of them gives vs each other.
Or a few cases I want or need slower lens vs a really quick lens too.
For my 35's & 28's it's combination of the above, but also size and weight.

None the less, I should probably get around to selling a few of these too.
 
Raid, you are not alone. I am like you and I particularly duplicate 50mm lens (ok others too) because I like the different looks they give. At the end of the day I do it because I am curious.
 
I think that the main factor driving me to where I am now is RFF, of course. It began with my idea to compare many 50mm lenses. RFF members mailed me many lenses, but of course, I sent them back to their owners. I then got curious ... what about the Summar or the Elmar or the Summarit and the Summitar ... and so on. I don't think that their values went down, though!
 
Every now and then I toy with the idea of paring down to one lens (50mm is my favorite focal length) but then another one comes up and they end up proliferating instead...

Currently I use:

Summitar--had this one for about 12 years
Nikkor SC 5cm/1.4--had it for 5 years
Elmar Red Scale--just got it this year

Each one renders a very different image--that and whether or not I want to go lightweight, determines the one I'll use.

Also have a Canon 50/1.8 but don't like it very much (plenty sharp but boring rendition I think).

Just got a W. Nikkor 35/2.5 which I have dubbed "The Prince of Bokeh"--really surprisingly sharp/contrasty lens with lovely bokeh (compares very favorably with the Summicron V.4 I recently borrowed) though the Nikkor ergonomically a little challenging (tiny aperture ring w/ rotating front).

I'm a LTM Canon and Leica shooter primarily. Though I do shoot with a Minolta SLR (XD-11) occasionally--I have five 50mm-55mm lenses for that system!
 
Raid, I don't think you're in the minority!

While I can see why some people like to have multiple lenses in a focal length, I just can't do it. I could say that it is because of some minimalist philosophy, but in reality I'm lazy and don't like to make decisions. I even struggle with more than one focal length sometimes, let alone multiples! What if I took the wrong one with me 😕

I do like to try different lenses though, how else would I know I have the right one 😀
 
Several 50’s. A Canon 50/1.4 (my standard 50mm), a Canon 50/1.2 (portraits). Aa Canon 50/0.95 (special purpose lens….plus it only cost me $60.00), a Leitz M-mount 50mm collapsible Summicron, and a 50/20 LTM Nikkor (when I want to use a Sonnar-type lens). All see use at one time or the other.

Jim B.
 
I don't have as many lenses as others probably do. I have a 25-28-35-50-50-90; for the duplicate FL's I have, one's a ZM Planar and the other's a ZM Sonnar. The Planar's my go-to 50, while the Sonnar is for that special rendering wide-open.
 
RF: CV21f4, Canon 28f3.5, Canon 35f2, CV40f1.4, 50 x5 (f1.8/2/3.5), Elmar 90f4, Hektor 135f4.5

Nikon SLR: 20f2.8, 20f3.5, 28f2.8, 28f3.5, 35f2.8, 50 x8 (f1.4/1.8/2/3.5), 100f2.5, Vivitar 28-90, 80-210
 
For me, it is curiosity before anything else. How does a Summicron render images, and how does a Biogon perform for me? Why do some people love the Pentax 43/1.9L or the Rolleiflex 40/2.8ltm? I want(ed) to know.
 
I usually have multiple 35mm and 50mm lenses, as they are the most used focal lengths for me.

This is my situation exactly. I like having lenses that render differently, I just don't know when to stop.

Canon 35mm f1.8
Canon 35mm f2.8
Jupiter 12 35mm f2.8
Leica Summaron 35mm f3.5

Canon 50mm f1.2
Canon 50mm f1.4
Canon 50mm f1.5
Jupiter-3 50mm f1.5
Canon 50mm f1.8
Canon Serenar 50mm f1.9
Leica Summitar 50mm f2.0
Jupiter-8 50mm f2.0
Canon 50mm f2.8
Leica Elmar 50mm f3.5
 
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