Dumb question Canon QL17

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matu

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Yesterday I baught a Canon QL17 and it came with:
A Sunpak 7s flash
A Tele and wide lense kit (Telesar ser. VII) with viewfinder
Just for 25 dollars.
I've been trying to find some info about the lenses kit but havn't found much.
My questions are
Is this a cheap lense kit?
Can I mount it to a Yashica Electro 35? Same thread diameter. I will eventually do it.
And there is some conversion table on the lense, is this for DOF or I must adjust the focus to the reading?
I don't know what kind of Tele or how wide the lense kit are.

Pablo
 
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Regardless of quality, it seems that those kits don't go that wide or that tele, and are a complete PITA to use, so I've steered well clear from them. However, I'm sure that with enough use almost anything can become intuitive (well, sorta) and so don't let anyone stop you from trying them if you are that way inclined.

David
 
greyhoundman said:
The QL17 has 48mm filter threads. The Electro 35 has 55mm filter threads.
The DOF changes with the addition of the wide/tele adapters. You set your focus according to the tables. It's based on distance from subject.
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Thanks for the fast reply.
I forgot to tell that the Telesar lenses came with a Tiffen thread mount adapter, the lenses are for 55mm and will fit to my Yashica. I don't know if the optics are compatible. I've seen on the web a similar kit for the Yashica Electro.

Sorry but still dont get it.
If the range finder tells me that the subject is at 4m, Do I have to convert the distance with the lense Table and change the focus distance on the lense?

Pablo
 
Even the 2 lens kit made for the Yashica series was not that good and a pain to use.
Here I dont think it is worth the effort...Not wide enough, not long enough, picture
quality will suffer.
 
Don't get depressed from the above - even if the two accessory lenses prove to be useless, the price for the canonet and flash was very very good.
 
That looks like the original QL17, not the later "compact" Ql17 or GIII. I think the lens on yours is a 45mm F1.7, same as on the Yashica GSN. The focus correct scale should work for both, it is according to focal length. The aux lenses are a poor substitute for an interchangeable lens, which you know. The "Tele" is probably ~60mm and the wide probably ~38mm, may be more. I had a 1.6x aux lens that I used for a few test shots on a Nikkor 50mm F1.4, making it an 80mm F1.4. BIG front element, no vignetting. Not bad with 5x7 prints, and no complaints for the $1 it cost me. Of course on an SLR, no need to refocus! That is the pain with AUX lenses and cameras that replace the front element only, like my Retina IIIc. Focus, read the distance scale, look up the new distance to refocus using the distance scale. Try that on a 6-year old at the playground! For a stationary object, or at least a patient co-operative one, it will wet your appetite for more lenses on a different camera.
 
That's not a GIII - it's the older style QL17.

Those lenses will fit the Yashica GSN - they both take the same 55mm threaded accessories. I don't remember their focal lengths, but I've used them before with the GSN; not a huge difference, but occasionally handy and not difficult to use stopped down to prevent DOF problems.
 
I have a couple of the older QL17's like yours. The "Big Boy" as I call it. They are really nice cameras. Tough, excellent workmanship with an excellent lens. Not as compact as the New Model or GIII, but smallness isn't everything. Plus the longer lens has advantages. I ignore the meter and use a handheld.

If you try out the Acc. lense and don't like them, you can recover some of the costs of the camera by selling the viewfinder. I have purchased acc. lens sets like yours just to get the viewfinder. Edge to edge, it is very close to a 35mm lens. It can be remasked for a telephoto as well and it is much easier to use than the Soviet finders that were made for the Zorkis and Feds. I have seen the finders alone sell for anywhere from $5-$20.

Also the Series VII adapter probably makes up the balance of your purchase price. There is another thread here somewhere on Series VII adapters. Hang on to that thing. If you tried to buy one you would pay another $10-$15.

-Paul
 
Thanks everybody for sharing your experiences with me.
I will make some testing for sure. (sorry if I didn't answer before, I was visiting a sitework.)

This adapters werent in my wish list, they just came along with the camera, and since I didn't find much info about them I asked here.

They are very heavy and I plan not to use them very often. The lense in the camera is loose, I think that is due to the weight of the lenses.

Greyhoundman I apreciate your honest coments since you have a vast experience.
Pherdinad, thanks for the support.
Brian thanks for you very precise notes.
John I will try them on my Yashica
Paul the viefinder is going to work great on my Zorki 4 and my Elmar 35mm, since my Vidom viewer gives me headache.

Pablo
 
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