Has anyone pre-ordered the x100?

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Has anyone pre-ordered the X100? I just did at Adorama. I fiqure if I dont like I can always sell as there most likely will be a limited supply..
 
What were you quoted as a price? I suspect that they had to pull that from the site because it violated MAP (or was going up).
 
I pre-ordered the X100 from Adorama, and canceled it, after using my D3 with a 35mm lens for a day. It's the wrong focal length for me...

If only it had interchangeable lenses.
 
It's "about" the same price as an EP2 Kit with EVF and 17/2.8. If the EP2 kit were available with the Panasonic 20/1.7 instead, it would be about the same price as the X100 and closer in speed. The APS-C size sensor and new viewfinder offers a choice.
 
I wonder who's going to CLA my X100 after a few years... 😉


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I wonder who's going to CLA my X100 after a few years... 😉

Well, logically:

1. Camera isn't that great, almost everyone stops using it after a few years, moving on to something better. No reason for CLA
2. Camera becomes cult classic like 5D, and a few niche services rise up to keep them running.

I'd bet american dollars that the 5D I and II are able to be serviced till at least 2020. (assuming society hasn't collapsed before then)
 
Yes; but who has spare parts after nine years?

Isn't this easily answered by looking at any old and serviced product ever? You buy up non working models off ebay and craigslist to use for spare parts. You buy up old stock from the original company. You learn how to repair the parts that do break. You find newer parts that fit or can be jury-rigged. etc etc.
 
Isn't this easily answered by looking at any old and serviced product ever? You buy up non working models off ebay and craigslist to use for spare parts. You buy up old stock from the original company. You learn how to repair the parts that do break. You find newer parts that fit or can be jury-rigged. etc etc.

You think so? ... like they don't with printers or computers or hi-fi or dishwashers or ......
 
You think so? ... like they don't with printers or computers or hi-fi or dishwashers or ......

Find one of these items that was so popular that it achieves cult status, and you will find people willing to repair them.

That is why I said it would either fade into obscurity and the 2 people welded at the hip to it will just have to deal with no repairs (and there will still be plenty of 2nd hand ones they can buy if they must have a working one) or if it does become a cult hit, it will be possible to get it fixed.

If you find an extremely popular printer from 10 years ago, there is a chinese ink supplier on ebay, for certain.
 
The discussion about serviceability is an age-old argument and a big hit among Leica lovers. Long-term parts availability is a special feature of a very small number of brands, and has to be appreciated on its own merits.

Other than that, it is just a normal fact of life that once a product has outlasted its support lifespan, users will be left alone with their products. That's the fate of most of today's high-tech products.

Conclusions:
  • Don't buy if you can't amortise a product within its normal support lifespan.
  • If you want service beyond that time, you're most likely a collector. You need to consider this in your purchase decision, as this rules out 98% of all technologically advanced products.
  • Long service life and cutting-edge technology apparently rule out each other, as design costs will compete with the costs of long service life. For manufacturers, it is difficult to amortise both and still ensure an attractive market price.
 
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The discussion about serviceability is an age-old argument and a big hit among Leica lovers. Long-term parts availability is a special feature of a very small number of brands, and has to be appreciated on its own merits.

Other than that, it is just a normal fact of life that once a product has outlasted its support lifespan, users will be left alone with their products. That's the fate of most of today's high-tech products.

It's the fate of yesterday's high-tech products, too. There are Leica products that Leica won't touch because they don't have spare parts anymore - I remember long, long discussions on a German photo forum because this happened to someone with a googled Summaron from the 1950s and his world broke down.
 
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