I Think We May Have A Film Problem

[Stu W]

I E-Mailed customer service at Kodak to see if they could make available to us their handy pocket guide. I'm sure a lot of you own one, but if you don't I found it to be very handy. Not only do you get processing times and temps, reciprocity failure tables, and a super handy cheat table for making exposures under unusual conditions where a meter would be useless. Things like night scenes, xmas decorations, etc. Anyway, It seems to me that discontinuing the guide goes along with dc'ing film, paper and chemicals. Stu

Greetings Stuart,

We received your e-mail regarding a Kodak pocket reference data guide
(publication #PG-118). We appreciate the opportunity to comment.

While we would like to be of assistance, we are sorry to say, the above
pocket guide is no longer available nor is there a current replacement.


Thank you for visiting the Kodak Web site. If you need to reply to this
e-mail, please reply 'with history' (include any previous e-mail) so we
can expedite our service to you. If you should have future questions on
Kodak products or services, please be sure to revisit our Web site as we
are continually adding information to enhance our service.

Sincerely,

Tammy R.
Kodak Information and Technical Support

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Question: Hello, although I own a Kodak digital camera, I
still primarily use film cameras. I wonder if your
pocket reference dataguide cat # 193 4777
publication no. PG-118 is still available and if
so how would I go about getting it. I have my own
copy, but I would like to make them available to
two groups I belong to, namely the Leica
Historical Society and the Rangefinder Forum. I
found the guide to be invaluable. Thanks. Stu

 

[ddunn]

What a pity. I scored a copy at a camera show about 3 years ago. It replaced one I'd had for years that suddenly went missing.

Contains stuff that is hard to come by--like the reciprocity tables.

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

It is, at best, frustrating. They are going down the wrong path. So much that they have invested in research, to see it slowly come down to this. They can't even provide a PDF file? How much does that cost them?

 

[captainslack]

*sigh*

That's too bad. I've got one of those pocket guides and I find it absolute essential. Stupid move on Kodak's part.

Correction, ANOTHER stupid move on Kodak's part.

 

[Nick R.]

We could devote a whole forum to the recent stupidity of this once great company.

 

[fredus]

Well, could someone scan it and make it available on PDF. It will go against copyright law but ... hey ... it would be for a good cause.

Fred

 

[Stu W]

Good Idea. If I can find a second copy around the house, maybe I'll dis-assemble it and scan it. I know of one copy, but i'm a little reluctant to take it apart. Stu

 

[fredus]

That would be very kind of you Stu !!!

Fred

 

[titrisol]

I have Kodak, Ilford, and AGFA guides... those little books are irrepleaceable

 

[Frank Granovski]

I had one of those thick booklets. I never used it so I threw it out. Oops.

 

[airds]

Fuji Pro guide

Fuji Pro guide

Here's the Fuji professional data guide ~2.1 Mb PDF/Zip

And as usual, far more photographer friendly that the fading yellow box .....

 

[ch1]

It is, at best, frustrating. They are going down the wrong path. So much that they have invested in research, to see it slowly come down to this. They can't even provide a PDF file? How much does that cost them?

Then again - perhaps someone with this info could request a release from Kodak and create a .pdf file of it?

Just a thought on how to be proactive rather than reactive.

 

[ch1]

Here's the Fuji professional data guide ~2.1 Mb PDF/Zip

And as usual, far more photographer friendly that the fading yellow box .....

Thanks for Fuji info, espescially since I am more and more preferring it to "Yellow".

Agreed, it does seem that Kodak is now in a self-inflicted death spiral. It certainly seems to be a company that is "deconstructing" itself as it wanders about the marketplace with fewer and fewer options....If you own it's shares - sell them NOW! This baby is a "no-hoper".

 

[Goodyear]

Then again - perhaps someone with this info could request a release from Kodak and create a .pdf file of it?

Just a thought on how to be proactive rather than reactive.

Excellent opportunity for Stu to follow up their response.

 

[zuikologist]

Seems to be time for us/RFF to set up a permanent archive of this kind of information, before its too late. It would be a valuable resource.

 

[jaap]

I E-Mailed customer service at Kodak to see if they could make available to us their handy pocket guide. I'm sure a lot of you own one, but if you don't I found it to be very handy. Not only do you get processing times and temps, reciprocity failure tables, and a super handy cheat table for making exposures under unusual conditions where a meter would be useless. Things like night scenes, xmas decorations, etc. Anyway, It seems to me that discontinuing the guide goes along with dc'ing film, paper and chemicals. Stu

Greetings Stuart,

We received your e-mail regarding a Kodak pocket reference data guide
(publication #PG-118). We appreciate the opportunity to comment.

While we would like to be of assistance, we are sorry to say, the above
pocket guide is no longer available nor is there a current replacement.


Thank you for visiting the Kodak Web site. If you need to reply to this
e-mail, please reply 'with history' (include any previous e-mail) so we
can expedite our service to you. If you should have future questions on
Kodak products or services, please be sure to revisit our Web site as we
are continually adding information to enhance our service.

Sincerely,

Tammy R.
Kodak Information and Technical Support

Original Message Follows:
-------------------------

Question: Hello, although I own a Kodak digital camera, I
still primarily use film cameras. I wonder if your
pocket reference dataguide cat # 193 4777
publication no. PG-118 is still available and if
so how would I go about getting it. I have my own
copy, but I would like to make them available to
two groups I belong to, namely the Leica
Historical Society and the Rangefinder Forum. I
found the guide to be invaluable. Thanks. Stu

that's a good example from a plublication for amatuer users. when you are serieos
about photography you figure out you own filmspeed and processing times!
all bithday time photographers have gone digital so there's absolute no need anymore for this kind of publications