Ikonta 532/16 lens removal

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Hi, how to remove lens with shutter mechanism from camera body?

And what is the best way to clean fat from shutter blades?

Thanks
 
begona said:
Hi, how to remove lens with shutter mechanism from camera body?

And what is the best way to clean fat from shutter blades?

Thanks
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That's a folder, right? Then it probably screws off from the front, or has a flange inside the bellows that unscrews to remove the lens and shutter assembly.

As to your second question, I can't help you. All my shutter blades are skinny, not fat.

Seriously, did you mean fat or some other substance? Shutter blades would probably have to be removed to clean them. Be careful, they are delicate, and would need to go back on just like the came off; in order and same side out.

Serously? Fat?
 
The Super Ikonta is very complex. Do yourself a favour and purchase a copy of the service manual (some ebay sellers offer them), or it is rather unlikely that you'll ever return it to working order.
 
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Ikonta 523/16 or Super Ikonta 532/16 ?

I can not say precisely, as I do not have either model, but if it is the "Super Ikonta", removal might be a bit is much more complicated than for the "Ikonta" , depending on how the coupled rangefinder of the Super is installed.
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[EDIT 22 Oct 2014] [Why does rangefinder forum not offer text strike-through ? :(] Strike-through has been added :)
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In any case, you would need to be able to unscrew the lens elements, you may need special tools - search the internet for details.

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There are instructions for dismantling and cleaning typical shutters here.
(Not exactly your model but the the principle is the same.)

Prontor on Ikonta 524/16

Rick Oleson's site
 
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oftheherd said:
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Serously? Fat?
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What Goran means is oil. In some Slavic languages the same word is used for oil, grease and fat.

Goran, you might want to try unscrewing rear element from the inside, than try to flood clean shutter blades, while exercising shutter, and wipe it off with cotton buds. If it doesn't work, then you will have to remove the front group, as well, and then flood clean the shutter.
 
sevo said:
The Super Ikonta is very complex. Do yourself a favour and purchase a copy of the service manual (some ebay sellers offer them), or it is rather unlikely that you'll ever return it to working order.
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What Sevo says! The rangefinder is aligned with two rotating prism-shaped pieces of glass and might be hard to align (alert #1) and if you take off the front plate and fire the shutter without it attached, many parts will come loose (alert #2) :eek:
 
Johan is correct -- I found that out the hard way. I think Sam's suggestion of getting at the shutter blades from the rear is a lot easier. If you do have to remove the front lens groups, that is a much more complicated task because the rangefinder gearing (connected to the rotating wedges) will have to be re-aligned.
 
Crazy Fedya said:
What Goran means is oil. In some Slavic languages the same word is used for oil, grease and fat.
Goran, you might want to try unscrewing rear element from the inside, than try to flood clean shutter blades, while exercising shutter, and wipe it off with cotton buds. If it doesn't work, then you will have to remove the front group, as well, and then flood clean the shutter.
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Then my apoligies to Goran. I didn't realize. His English was good enough I thought he might have the right word. Goodness knows cameras can find themselves in some very strange places, and pick up some unbelieveable substances. I also should have looked to see that was a RF. I only have one RF folder and have a tendancy to think in terms non-RF. My bad.

After reading the above posts, it appears flushing from behind might be the best option to try first. But Crazy Fedya, can the blades be easily cleaned from the rear without getting the front elements dirty? It seems from the posts above that removing the front elements may be a difficult thing to do.

EDIT: Crazy Fedya - thanks for setting me straight.
 
Oftheherd,
I have cleaned multiple shutters that way. It takes quite a few floodings and wipe offs to dissolve oil on the other side, but it is definitely doable. There will be splashes of it on interior surface of rear surface of middle group, that can be carefully cleaned up. Also, only blades should be flooded judiciously through the back. I have used Ronsonol in yellow container, gently squeezing through the nozzle straight onto the blades.

My pleasure.
 
grease is correct word. :) Thanks

I found inside the bellows screw that need to be unscrewed to take shutter down. But I think that shutter need complete overhul so I will take it to more expiriance serviceman.


Thank you all for you advices. :)

As always, you are ready to help
 
You might want to take a look at this site, Goran. Not the same camera, but similar enough to get some good tips on what to look out for.

PF

ps: Sorry, went back to look at the link, and found out it had nothing to do with the lens/shutter assembly, but at least is the same camera.

ps: ps: Did a search, and found the page I was thinking of. http://www.davidrichert.com/zeiss_532_161.htm
 
farlymac said:
You might want to take a look at this site, Goran. Not the same camera, but similar enough to get some good tips on what to look out for.

PF

ps: Sorry, went back to look at the link, and found out it had nothing to do with the lens/shutter assembly, but at least is the same camera.

ps: ps: Did a search, and found the page I was thinking of. http://www.davidrichert.com/zeiss_532_161.htm
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Bookmarked these links, thanks Farly! :)
 
Crazy Fedya said:
Oftheherd,
I have cleaned multiple shutters that way. It takes quite a few floodings and wipe offs to dissolve oil on the other side, but it is definitely doable. There will be splashes of it on interior surface of rear surface of middle group, that can be carefully cleaned up. Also, only blades should be flooded judiciously through the back. I have used Ronsonol in yellow container, gently squeezing through the nozzle straight onto the blades.

My pleasure.
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Thanks. Next time I have that need I will try it that way. The last time I tried that it didn't work. It was on an Ibsor shutter on a 9x12. I ended up having to disassemble the shutter. It was an interesting exercise, especially getting it to work afterward. Turned out it need a very light application of lithium grease on a particular part and then all worked well.

Thanks for correcting me on translations and on the tip for cleaning shutters that way.
 
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