I'll bet you $100...
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maybe not.
the seller has been around for awhile, has a lot of sales and very low negative feedback.
how will we find out and when do i get the 100 bucks😉?
joe
the seller has been around for awhile, has a lot of sales and very low negative feedback.
how will we find out and when do i get the 100 bucks😉?
joe
JoeFriday
Agent Provacateur
you get the money as soon as you verify the serial number isn't listed on any lists as being stolen
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too much work, bets off!
Terence T
Where'd my Bessa go?
Great job with a file. Poor camera, it looks tortured.
miguel_tuna
Newbie
This may be a dumb question, but is this leica an half frame? The counter on the photo goes on no. 40.
JoeFriday
Agent Provacateur
backalley photo said:
the only work would be to find out what the serial number is/was.. the previous owner/finder/thief did a pretty good job of removing it with a Dremel
Terence T
Where'd my Bessa go?
A M body cap says it'd hit $450. Anyone else? A couple of mins to go.
egpj
50 Summilux is da DEVIL!
Looks like it sold. The serial number machined off is such an obvious give away.
wyk_penguin
Well-known
miguel_tuna said:
I don't think so. If it were, the counter would go to 80. 😀 Also I think I see a 24X36mm film gate.
XAos
Well-known
egpj said:
With firearms, mere possession of an altered serial number is considered prima facia evidence that the owner did it. While I dont wish that level of regulation on cameras, I think it speaks VOLUMES about the seller that he would accept it. Namely that he doesn't CARE whether or not it's stolen.
jlw
Rangefinder camera pedant
It could have been a damaged camera repaired with salvaged parts. No, I don't know why someone would go to the trouble of removing the donor camera's serial number, but some people are like that.
I'm far from a Leica expert, but I thought that only really early M3s had numbers up to 40 on the counter dial -- yet this one has the later-type shutter dial with the standard number sequence. Also evidence of a hybrid camera?
I'm far from a Leica expert, but I thought that only really early M3s had numbers up to 40 on the counter dial -- yet this one has the later-type shutter dial with the standard number sequence. Also evidence of a hybrid camera?
XAos
Well-known
jlw said:
I'm sure if it is stolen that it was probably stolen 3 or 4 owners ago. I still think it's bad form. If it were assembled from parts, then the visible serial number should be the "new identity". Mixed serial numbers are quite common on collectibles in other fields, especially anything this old. Marking through the serial would be no more destructive to its value or aesthetics than attacking it with a die grinder. If this were a zorki, I'd find it easier to believe, but to be an expensive camera with well known serial number databases.. it just doesn't smell good.
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Todd.Hanz
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So skeptical Brett, where is your trust? This guy probably wrapped his camera in 60 grit sand paper to protect it in his camera bag 😉
Todd
Todd
JoeFriday
Agent Provacateur
I'm not laughing, Todd.. I'm crying
miguel_tuna
Newbie
wyk_penguin, I said it was ON no.40, not until no.40🙂
SolaresLarrave
My M5s need red dots!
All Leica M rangefinders reach up to 40 frames in the frame counter. In the case of this one, it's evident the film spool hasn't been pulled out because doing so resets the counter back to zero.
My M6TTL bodies also count up to 40 exposures. It's kinda handy when you get 39 photos out of a 36 exposure roll... 🙂
My M6TTL bodies also count up to 40 exposures. It's kinda handy when you get 39 photos out of a 36 exposure roll... 🙂
With items that have stamped serial numbers, apparently there's enough change in the metal that even when the surface lettering is ground away, a kind of etching method can reveal the number outlined in the stresses formed lower in the metal. I've heard of this method in determining a serial number removed from firearms, anyway.
