Impossible Project debuts a brand new instant camera

There was a teaser up for this camera on Impossible web site the next day I got my Polaroid SLR 680...

I'm using the wrong Impossible B&W SX-70 film with it and getting great results. Anyone deliberately using SX-70 film in series 600 cameras? Or is Impossible 600 film just as good as SX-70?

Will this new Impossible camera work with both SX-70 and 600 film?
 
What he said.

I wonder if the app has a metering function built in. That would be very convenient.
 
Interesting. I haven't gotten into TIP yet because their film is so expensive and I can't justify it over Instax for my purposes. But this camera is certainly intriguing
 
brbo said:
........I'm using the wrong Impossible B&W SX-70 film with it and getting great results. Anyone deliberately using SX-70 film in series 600 cameras? Or is Impossible 600 film just as good as SX-70?

Will this new Impossible camera work with both SX-70 and 600 film?
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There’s a big speed difference between 600-series and SX-70 film. 600-series is just that, ISO 600 film, while SX-70 comes in at ISO 160.

As for which is better, some folks think that 600-series is a better film.

I believe the new camera takes brand new film. The camera has a built-in battery which means that the film pack doesn’t come with a battery like existing SX-70 and 600-series film does.

Jim B.
 
The article says, "...a revamp ...that packs the original's analog pleasures into a sleek digital package." A digital package that uses Type 600 film. Interesting. Very interesting.
 
Nice to see Bloomberg keeping up their usual standards "The camera itself is designed for simplicity of use: there are few buttons and no knobs"

Right underneath a photo of a knob on the side.

Back on topic though, curious to see the results and how this will work being a new type of film.
 
I track everything in The Impossible Project universe of instant film. The film is a bit costly but keeps getting better and better, and it produces unique photographs. This new i-1 looks like it will be another cool camera to work with.

The "new" 600 film is simply 600 film in cassettes that don't have the battery in them. That means they only work in cameras that do not require the built-in batteries, like the Impossible Project's "Instant Lab" and the "66/6 Instant Pinhole" camera. And this new i-1 camera. All three of these are built on the same processing unit base. Regular 600 film is fully compatible, as is SX-70 film, with the i-1, just like with the Instant Lab and 6/66 Instant Pinhole.

The cassettes are all the same, they differ only by the presence of the battery and which emulsion and frame are being used. SX-70 film is ISO 150, 600 film is ISO 600 ... two stops faster. You can shoot 600 film in traditional SX-70 cameras by either turning the light/dark control to the darkest setting, and conversely shoot SX-70 film in 600 cameras by turning the light/dark contol to the lightest setting. You can also use a two-stop ND filter with SX-70 film cameras to adjust the metering so that the 600 film is properly exposed on the normal setting.

(In general, the 600 class Impossible Films have been a bit more successful than the SX-70 class films. It seems it's harder to make slower emulsions these days; the chemistry they're using now tend to be just a bit faster than the SX-70 rating and right on the mark for the 600 rating. The latest films control this better. The latest 600 color film version 3, currently in beta test, is very good quality. The one thing I prefer SX-70 film for is time exposures with the 6/66 Instant Pinhole and Polaroid SLR670m by MiNT: the SX-70 emulsion's reciprocity grows more slowly than the 600 emulsion.)

The control capabilities of the i-1 will allow manual exposure adjustment, based on the announcements I've seen. I'm looking forward to working with the i-1.

I love seeing instant film survive and prosper. :)

G


Minolta Instant Pro (aka Polaroid Spectra Pro) + close up lens
Impossible Project Spectra B&W film
Scanned with Impossible Project app scanner and iPad mini 3​
 
@ brbo: Godfrey gave a clear explanation of differences between the various films. I use regularly 600 film (the Black and Green version) on one of my sx70 with a ND filter on it, But I tried even without the ND filter just turning down the exposure compensation and it works very well.
Nice to see the Impossible Project evolving...
robert

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This is so cool.... I had no idea this (instant film) thing was going on. People still want a print to hold in spite of all the time spent in front of one screen or another.
 
ray*j*gun said:
This is so cool.... I had no idea this (instant film) thing was going on. People still want a print to hold in spite of all the time spent in front of one screen or another.
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"in spite of all the time spent in front of one screen or another" > "because of all the time spent in front of one screen or another"

:)
 
Godfrey said:
The "new" 600 film is simply 600 film in cassettes that don't have the battery in them. That means they only work in cameras that do not require the built-in batteries, like the Impossible Project's "Instant Lab" and the "66/6 Instant Pinhole" camera.
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One of the reasons I don't shoot that much Impossible Film is obvioulsy the price. 20 Euros for 8 exposures is steep. Which begs the question: Will the new film without batteries be any cheaper?

Btw, it is ridiculously easy to hack a 10 Euro flea market Polaroid to work with commonly available penlite batteries. Aint pretty, works fine. Did this to use old packs with a dead battery.
 
Ronald_H said:
One of the reasons I don't shoot that much Impossible Film is obvioulsy the price. 20 Euros for 8 exposures is steep. Which begs the question: Will the new film without batteries be any cheaper?

Btw, it is ridiculously easy to hack a 10 Euro flea market Polaroid to work with commonly available penlite batteries. Aint pretty, works fine. Did this to use old packs with a dead battery.
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Not much cheaper I am afraid, the film for the Istant Lab which a
was without battery was only 19 instead of 20 EUR...

You are right, it's expensive...but it's a great emotion...I'm also not shooting so much as I would like for the same reason...on the other side I do not buy a new digital camera each year and with that money I can buy enough films :D

robert
 
robert blu said:
@ brbo: Godfrey gave a clear explanation of differences between the various films. I use regularly 600 film (the Black and Green version) on one of my sx70 with a ND filter on it, But I tried even without the ND filter just turning down the exposure compensation and it works very well.
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Yes (and thank you Godfrey), I know about the speed difference between SX-70 and 600 film. I can use the exp. comp. on SLR680 and so far I didn't even need to go all the way to the brightest setting to expose the SX-70 film the way I like (I'm sure I'll eventually run into a situation when more compensation will be needed, though).



But I was more curious about the difference in "character" of the two.

The only side-to-side comparison that I found was this and the difference was, well, more than I imagined and I prefer the SX-70 in this case.


Impossible Instant Lab by mojocoffee, on Flickr
 
Love those photos, Robert and brbo!

I buy in six-pack bunches to get the lowest price. It's not cheap, but I don't mind for the volume I use. It's not a heck of a lot more expensive than shooting 6x6 120 roll film, having it processed and printed.

What made the Impossible film so expensive at first was the inconsistency. Between the fact that many of the cameras are old and getting quirky on shutter timing and exposure, the film was very very slow to process and unpredictable as to how it would react to different lighting. And then there were the deficiencies of the opacifier and tendency to become overexposed as it came out of the camera...

The latest generations of film have advanced enormously in these regards with far better light-proofness on ejection, much much faster processing, and much more consistent behavior. So now I can get 7 out of 8 per pack that are properly exposed and focused, assuming that the camera I'm using is in good shape.

Each generation of the films, both SX-70 and 600, have changed along the way. The current is finally reaching the color quality and consistency that makes Impossible possible. The photo below took virtually no adjustment...

At that point, it becomes a real photographic tool and lets you get past the technology to work on photographs. :)

G



Polaroid SLR670a by MiNT
Impossible Project "Magic 8" 600 Color film​
 
brbo said:
Yes (and thank you Godfrey), I know about the speed difference between SX-70 and 600 film. I can use the exp. comp. on SLR680 and so far I didn't even need to go all the way to the brightest setting to expose the SX-70 film the way I like (I'm sure I'll eventually run into a situation when more compensation will be needed, though).



But I was more curious about the difference in "character" of the two.

The only side-to-side comparison that I found was this and the difference was, well, more than I imagined and I prefer the SX-70 in this case.


Impossible Instant Lab by mojocoffee, on Flickr
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That was due to the emulsion QC in earlier films- they are slowly getting more consistent
 
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