Bill Clark
Veteran
Information released by Kodak.
Thought it might be of interest here.
https://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/pr...54RS70dB8Ydvd29TOMtK08nRIatg8VOHJZLjbszj6rNWI
Thought it might be of interest here.
https://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/pr...54RS70dB8Ydvd29TOMtK08nRIatg8VOHJZLjbszj6rNWI
charjohncarter
Veteran
Looks like they made some money. But I can never really understand these reports. Also there isn't much on their website about film: do they make?
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
Couple hundred million profit? Looks good to me.
Bill Clark
Veteran
Most of the profit came from the sale of a division.
Current quarter GAAP net earnings included a gain on the sale of the Company’s Flexographic Packaging Division of $207 million
Ted Striker
Well-known
Couple hundred million profit? Looks good to me.
You need to spend more than 2 minutes reading this report. It is far from "good". As another poster mentioned, Kodak's "profit" comes from selling off its most profitable division. Kodak is now a much smaller company, left with the parts that lose money, or break even. Revenue is down and profits from the remaining divisions are down. The film division is losing money.
Reaction? The market has hammered down Kodak stock, -15% this week. While the market was soaring today, Kodak lost an additional -3.3%. For the trailing month, Kodak is down -19% in value. For the trailing year, Kodak is down -35% in value. Finally, in the last 5 years, Kodak's stock has fallen -90%.
There are a few here who will launch vicious personal attacks at me for posting these *facts*. It would be nice if instead, they replied with counter facts and entered into discussion.
I would have thought that Kodak's stock would have gone up this week as they retired a good chunk of their debt. But investors have fled the stock hard, because Kodak sold off the most profitable part of their company. The CEO has hided out the company and there is not much left to build a sustainable company out of.
Kodak's share price is a few pennies away from falling below $2/share. If you believe in Kodak, I mean *really* believe in the company, NOW is the time to buy.
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
I won't be buying stock but I will be buying a few thousand feet of Kodak film this year.
Phil Forrest
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Steve M.
Veteran
As long as they still make Tri-X, that's all I care about 
On a more serious note, as Ted alluded to, anyone who tells you that refinancing your debt will save you money, as this report so gleefully states, is either a liar or an idiot. Or both. It may have a lower interest rate, but the longer pay back will more than eat that up, along with added refinance costs and fees. This is just a way to show more money now to lure fresh investors, at the expense of having less later.
But then it's Kodak, right? Not the sharpest knives in the drawer when it comes to this stuff, or they would never have had to do what they did in the first place. Just make the film guys, and hire an outside firm to do the heavy lifting with the math.
https://smartasset.com/refinance/3-refinancing-mistakes-that-can-cost-you-money
On a more serious note, as Ted alluded to, anyone who tells you that refinancing your debt will save you money, as this report so gleefully states, is either a liar or an idiot. Or both. It may have a lower interest rate, but the longer pay back will more than eat that up, along with added refinance costs and fees. This is just a way to show more money now to lure fresh investors, at the expense of having less later.
But then it's Kodak, right? Not the sharpest knives in the drawer when it comes to this stuff, or they would never have had to do what they did in the first place. Just make the film guys, and hire an outside firm to do the heavy lifting with the math.
https://smartasset.com/refinance/3-refinancing-mistakes-that-can-cost-you-money
Huss
Veteran
I just bought 30,000 rolls of ProImage and Portra so I'm ok for a while.
brbo
Well-known
The film division is losing money.
There is no film division. But the division the film segment is (financially) part of is doing better than last year.
dourbalistar
Buy more film
I just bought 30,000 rolls of ProImage and Portra so I'm ok for a while.
Wait... 30,000 rolls?!?!
Ted Striker
Well-known
There is no film division. But the division the film segment is (financially) part of is doing better than last year.
You are correct. That division lost only 2 million dollars last quarter compared to 5 million the prior year. My mistake. I misread the report.
valdas
Veteran
I just bought 30,000 rolls of ProImage and Portra so I'm ok for a while.
Yah, that’s what you call buying wholesale
Ste_S
Well-known
Yah, that’s what you call buying wholesaleDid you also buy a temperature controlled warehouse to keep it?
Reminds me of Anton Corbijn when he panicked and bought all the Tri-X when Kodak were on the brink last time. His apartment was apparently taken over by freezers trying to store it all
Huss
Veteran
Wait... 30,000 rolls?!?!![]()
30.000 rolls.
Gotta stop mixing up "," with "."
css9450
Veteran
30.000 rolls.
Thirty point zero zero zero. That's some precision! To the thousandth of a roll!
ptpdprinter
Veteran
That's a big freezer you've got there.I just bought 30,000 rolls of ProImage and Portra so I'm ok for a while.
Out to Lunch
Ventor
I want to see that freezer.
taemo
eat sleep shoot
I was more thinking “Damn Huss must be a retired millionare”!
CharlesDAMorgan
Veteran
30,000 rolls would keep a lot of bodies hidden
Huss
Veteran
I was more thinking “Damn Huss must be a retired millionare”!
lol working on it!
There is nothing we can do to help but shoot film.
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