lxmike
M2 fan.
Looking in my local camera dealers today he had a III @ £120 and a IIIC @ £140, now I'm tempted but don't know which one to choose, they are both in roughly the same condition. What woulf you choose
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
I got both and they are both great cameras, if the rangefinder patch contrast is good on both, I would flip a coin.
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
I prefer the IIIc. It has the benefit of having been improved over time in various ways. Compared to the III, the IIIc has a 1/1000 second top shutter speed, a die-cast chassis rather than one assembled out of a bunch of small pieces screwed together, and a stronger front able to hold heavier lenses. There are also internal improvements. I think the IIIc is the better camera of the two. I take my own advice: I have three of them!
lxmike
M2 fan.
thank you Rob, great advice
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
The IIIC no doubt! As Rob said, apart from the faster shutter it was their first model with a one single piece metal chassis, and it's considered more reliable and durable as years of use pass by...
Cheers,
Juan
Cheers,
Juan
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wlewisiii
Guest
Of those two, the IIIc though my advice would be to wait for a IIIf. In the end, though, any of them will provide an enjoyable photographic experience.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
The IIIF black dial is a IIIC, just with flash connection, but share shutter and 99% or 100% of the camera... The IIIF red dial and the IIIG are the last Barnack shutter (viewfinder and other things) designs... But what matters is that all of them work well and can be adjusted in present and future days to work like new...
Cheers,
Juan
Cheers,
Juan
Brian Legge
Veteran
The one with the newest curtains. And shutter speeds that seem about right. And a nice visible patch. 
Those types of factors seem likely to be the biggest differentiators.
Those types of factors seem likely to be the biggest differentiators.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
The IIIc is better, and a BLACK IIIc is better still ...
Erik.
Erik.

Rob-F
Likes Leicas
The IIIc is better, and a BLACK IIIc is better still ...
Erik.
Agreed! But is a black III better than a chrome IIIc? That's harder to answer!
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Agreed! But is a black III better than a chrome IIIc? That's harder to answer!
A chrome IIIc with a ball raced shutter is better than a black III.
Erik.
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
How about
a III factory converted /black paint to a IIIf
#2781 serial #
worth getting ????
Is the top and bottom Plate BRASS ?

a III factory converted /black paint to a IIIf
#2781 serial #
worth getting ????
Is the top and bottom Plate BRASS ?
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Erik van Straten
Veteran
How about
a IIIc factory converted /black paint to a IIIf
worth getting ????
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You mean a black IIIc with added flash synch? Worth getting, if the black paint is original. Be prepared to pay a lot of money.
Erik.
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
You mean a black IIIc with added flash synch? Worth getting, if the black paint is original. Be prepared to pay a lot of money.
Erik.
Oh Hi Erik
No its not original ...Painted Black and Converted at Factory III to IIIf ......1/1000
would it be Brass underneath ....the knobs & Plates ?
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helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
Erik Please post a Front View of YOUR IIIC...Thanx ...xo
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Oh Hi Erik
No its not original ...Painted Black and Converted at Factory III to IIIf ......1/10000
would it be Brass underneath ....the knobs & Plates ?
Hi Helen,
I think you mean a III (or I if the serial number is 2781) that has an added IIIf-type synch. These cameras are called, when they have 1/1000 top speed and slow speeds, IIIasyn.
Yes, when they are black, they are very pretty, conversed in the fifties and they surely have brass top and bottom plates. But they are no IIIc's or IIIf's.
I'll post an example.
Erik.

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Erik van Straten
Veteran
Erik Please post a Front View of YOUR IIIC...Thanx ...xo
Here you are.
Erik.

helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
THANK YOU Erik !!!
She's a BEAUTY / IIIC
i ADORE the Top view of the IIIasyn
She's a BEAUTY / IIIC
i ADORE the Top view of the IIIasyn
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Erik van Straten
Veteran
i ADORE the Top view of the IIIasyn
Yes I like it too, but I prefer the conversions without synch.
Erik.

Vince Lupo
Whatever
Looking in my local camera dealers today he had a III @ £120 and a IIIC @ £140, now I'm tempted but don't know which one to choose, they are both in roughly the same condition. What woulf you choose
Just buy both and you won't have to worry about choosing....
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