Leica or copy? Why?

[pedro.m.reis]

Hi ppl.
This
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEITZ-LEICA-II-CAMERA_W0QQitemZ7557978791QQcategoryZ30099QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Its original or copy? Why?
Where can i find a site that teach how to tell the differences?

Tks

 

[Sonnar Brian]

Leica Standard with accessory Rangefinder. Looks authentic. Real Elmar lens. The Russian fakes tend to re-engrace the aperture to the old "F18" standard, but the DOF scale is left F16. This one has matching F numbers on the lens and DOF chart.

 

[pedro.m.reis]

But the ingraves ( serial number, DRP on the speed selectr, etc) seems too "rustic". Is that normal?

 

[Sonnar Brian]

That is how they look on my uncoated, black paint 9cm F4 Elmar. The paint wears down, the engraving looks like this. It looks normal to me, compared with that lens.

 

[pedro.m.reis]

Humm, ok, Just another thing, the lens is different from this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Leica-I-Model-C-1930_W0QQitemZ7558386101QQcategoryZ98923QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Different lots? Year of production?

 

[captainslack]

Looks authentic to me. Besides, the copies are usually made from old FED's & Zorki's, which are copies of actual Leica II's. This, as Brian said, is a Leica Standard.

 

[Sonnar Brian]

This auction, as stated by the honest seller, is for a Russian copy of the above mentioned camera.

You can barely make it out, but note that the F-Stops on the Elmar copy's DOF scale (lens mount) differ from those on the aperture scale (front of lens).

http://cgi.ebay.com/LEICA-I-BLACK-O...561616598QQcategoryZ30030QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem