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I read somewhere that it was generally NOT a good idea to mix brands of body/ lens. Is that true? What has been your experience w/respect to LTM, especially Canon body/ Leica lens?
 
kbg32 said:
In respect to LTM, all work fine irregardless of lens/body combinations.

Except for the rare few incompatibilities (ie. the Jupiter Biogon clone that can't be used on the Canon P - due to a baffle/lens hit).

I don't see any reason not to combine brands of lens and body - for me one of the more attractive things about the LTM/M lens lineup is that very flexibility.
 
I heard that mixing water that comes from a blue pitcher and drinking it in a red glass could make it incompatible with electrolytes.

But that could just be "bolonie". Probably the same with "mixing" lens and body brands.

Perhaps this is some overexaggerated misperception about how Jupiter lenses were calibrated to its paired body at the factory. Perhaps.

Blue soybeans is beetle.
 
rogue_designer said:
Except for the rare few incompatibilities (ie. the Jupiter Biogon clone that can't be used on the Canon P - due to a baffle/lens hit).

I don't see any reason not to combine brands of lens and body - for me one of the more attractive things about the LTM/M lens lineup is that very flexibility.

I'm not sure which lens you're talking about, but if it's the Jupiter-12, I have one that I use on my Canon P with no difficulty.
 
Certain J-12's - they seem to be only those made before 1957 - have a wider rear element and won't fit on the later Canons (V,VI, P, L & 7). Ones made after that will fit quite nicely. I had one on my Canon 7 and was quite happy with it.

As for mixing and matching, if it's an LTM lens it's an LTM lens. Use whatever ones you like best. I tend to prefer Canon glass of late, but that's just me.

William
 
I keep on missing out on a lens...an interesting Japanese copy of an Elmar. If I had some money I'd be tempted to buy the thing as it's being listed for around $50 and apparently is rather good...but I have other things I need. Like the stuff to make the Lulu costume I'm going to have to work on all month. And I'm talking about Final Fantasy X's Lulu. If you know what she wears, you'll see why I'm going to be banging my head against a brick wall quite a bit.
 
I just bought a ltm Canon 50/1.8 & am hoping it will be fine on my Nicca IIIS since they are both manufactured in Japan... 😀 😉 😀

Peter

ps... In all seriousness, as others have stated, most (nearly all) LTM lenses will be fine on any Leica body... The only exceptions I am aware of are with the collapsible lenses & J-12/Biogon with the CL/CLE... Might also be a problem with the M5, but I have no business whatsoever using the 'L' word in public...
 
The Canon that I owned worked with all my other brand(FSU, Leica, and Steinheil) lenses except for my Jupiter-12. On the other hand, I need to be careful about which lenses I use on my FSU cameras: the RF cam in the camera isn't a "roller" but a triangular shaped cam. Not a big deal on most lenses BUT those lenses that have a focus "tab" rather than a "collar" apparently will hang up on the focus cam in the camera body.
Rob
 
Stephanie Brim said:
I keep on missing out on a lens...an interesting Japanese copy of an Elmar. If I had some money I'd be tempted to buy the thing as it's being listed for around $50 and apparently is rather good...but I have other things I need. Like the stuff to make the Lulu costume I'm going to have to work on all month. And I'm talking about Final Fantasy X's Lulu. If you know what she wears, you'll see why I'm going to be banging my head against a brick wall quite a bit.

What, this Lulu?

200px-Lulu_artwork.jpg


Yeah, I could see how that would take a bit of time. And a lot of belts. If you're planning to wear it to a Halloween party, I suggest drinking moderately at best, because if you were to fall down the stairs in that outfit, there'd be no way to save yourself!

Be careful out there...




Incidentally, I assume that thing she's holding is one of the voodoo dolls she uses to kill people...?
 
jlw said:
What, this Lulu?

200px-Lulu_artwork.jpg


Yeah, I could see how that would take a bit of time. And a lot of belts. If you're planning to wear it to a Halloween party, I suggest drinking moderately at best, because if you were to fall down the stairs in that outfit, there'd be no way to save yourself!

Be careful out there...




Incidentally, I assume that thing she's holding is one of the voodoo dolls she uses to kill people...?

It's a doll, yeah, and I have to make that, too. :bang: It's her 'weapon', so to speak, though I hardly ever use it as such. It's more of a golem. She's a black mage, so she uses destructive magic (elemental spells like fire, ice, etc) to actually kill her foes. I tend to go more for the magic users when playing a game. 😉

I'll be wearing it to work (and bringing a camera so that I can take photos of the stuff other people are wearing, too. I may be going to a party afterward, but I never drink that much anyway.

To get back on topic, I tend to use whatever lenses I want with my Canon P. I like it that way. I like the LTM cameras so much because of their incredibly wide selection of lens choices. It's also why I have a feeling I'll eventually have an M body: being able to use both M lenses and the screwmount lenses I have with adapters is about the ultimate for me.
 
There is one more incompatibility. The prewar FED lenses have register values (lens mount to film plane) that varied from item to item. They were note always set to 28.8mm, but rather matched to a specific camera.
 
Stephanie Brim said:
I like the LTM cameras so much because of their incredibly wide selection of lens choices. It's also why I have a feeling I'll eventually have an M body: being able to use both M lenses and the screwmount lenses I have with adapters is about the ultimate for me.

Yep, this is a very important point. When push came to shove recently, I sold my much loved Canon 7 and kept the CL instead because of the far greater mount flexability. I can use a Canon 28/3.5, Leica collapsible Summicron 50/2, Leica Elmar 90/4 LTM (pre-war & uncoated) & a Canon 135/3.5 all equally well. Now, all of these but one are LTM lenses - but that 'cron being an M mount lens made a whole lot of difference 🙂

William
 
rbiemer said:
On the other hand, I need to be careful about which lenses I use on my FSU cameras: the RF cam in the camera isn't a "roller" but a triangular shaped cam. Not a big deal on most lenses BUT those lenses that have a focus "tab" rather than a "collar" apparently will hang up on the focus cam in the camera body.

This is not a total show stopper - at least for some "tabbed" lenses and FSU cameras it is still possible to safely mount and dismount the lens provided that it is set to its closest focus distance (to retract the tab as far as possible). My new Canon 85/1.9 works without problems on my Zorki-6.

However, be very careful if you decide to try this - if the follower gets snagged the RF alignment is likely to go bad and you'll have to access the RF-follower through the shutter from the back of the camera to get the lens off.

Cheers,

Anders
 
physiognomy said:
ps... In all seriousness, as others have stated, most (nearly all) LTM lenses will be fine on any Leica body... The only exceptions I am aware of are with the collapsible lenses & J-12/Biogon with the CL/CLE... Might also be a problem with the M5, but I have no business whatsoever using the 'L' word in public...

Mmmmh, just a tiny correction. CL, CLE and M5 are not LTM bodies. Anyway, you can put LTM lenses on these camera using an adapter and you can also put collapsible lenses on them as long as you remember not to collaps them (or to collapse them only with the swing-arm of the light-meter away). Actually, I am not ever sure how the CLE's light-meter is, I suspect that this is a problem only with CL (I have one) and M5 (I don't have it but I have seen it many times).

Giella lea Fapmu
 
AndersG said:
This is not a total show stopper - at least for some "tabbed" lenses and FSU cameras it is still possible to safely mount and dismount the lens provided that it is set to its closest focus distance (to retract the tab as far as possible). My new Canon 85/1.9 works without problems on my Zorki-6.
However, be very careful if you decide to try this - if the follower gets snagged the RF alignment is likely to go bad and you'll have to access the RF-follower through the shutter from the back of the camera to get the lens off.
Cheers,
Anders
Anders,
This is why I have decided to not chance it. There are some things, that while the chances of them occuring are small, the results--if they happen--are very bad. And in this case, I think, the chances are not small. I am limiting my lens choices somewhat. But I'm happy to live with that.
Rob
 
You can use Leica R lenses with an adapter on your Canon Eos. I hear good things about such a setup. 😛
 
wlewisiii said:
Certain J-12's - they seem to be only those made before 1957 - have a wider rear element and won't fit on the later Canons (V,VI, P, L & 7). Ones made after that will fit quite nicely. I had one on my Canon 7 and was quite happy with it.
wlewisiii said:
How do you know w/ certainty that it's a late (after 1957) J-12? Is there a serial number / color, etc. that puts it into the "later" category?

Bill
 
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