proenca
Proenca
Hi there,
I had a M7 and now a MP. I have no digital camera,. but I had quite a few for a long years.. Whilst I try to make the picture as perfect as possible in camera, film obliges you too and you think much more about composition and exposure,scan the pictures and i catalogue my pictures in Lightroom and tweak them a bit here and there in Photoshop (sometimes on lightroom only, since the adjustments are mainly colour casts)- mainly sharpen and colour casts when to print them, a crop here and there. nothing near the amount of work that a digital only file would though.
Anyone uses a similar or different approach ? Or here is just hard core people that print directly from slides and dont care about the computer for nothing else than use the forum and check emails ?
I had a M7 and now a MP. I have no digital camera,. but I had quite a few for a long years.. Whilst I try to make the picture as perfect as possible in camera, film obliges you too and you think much more about composition and exposure,scan the pictures and i catalogue my pictures in Lightroom and tweak them a bit here and there in Photoshop (sometimes on lightroom only, since the adjustments are mainly colour casts)- mainly sharpen and colour casts when to print them, a crop here and there. nothing near the amount of work that a digital only file would though.
Anyone uses a similar or different approach ? Or here is just hard core people that print directly from slides and dont care about the computer for nothing else than use the forum and check emails ?
BigSteveG
Well-known
Recently started using Lightroom. Haven't printed any manipulated pix yet, but I will. I'm shooting both Dig and film now so the prgram comes in extremely handy.
AusDLK
Famous Photographer
I find Lightroom VERY disappointing.
It runs like a DOG on a very high-end PC (ie., it just locks up, scroll bars don't move, get the notorious "not responding" message). It comes back eventually but it should behave this way in the first place.
And I've found importing a bunch of scanned files in numerous folders to be unreliable (ie., files in some folders not appearing in Lightroom).
I'm not giving up on it (yet) but it is definitely not the photo organization nirvana that I was hoping it would be.
It runs like a DOG on a very high-end PC (ie., it just locks up, scroll bars don't move, get the notorious "not responding" message). It comes back eventually but it should behave this way in the first place.
And I've found importing a bunch of scanned files in numerous folders to be unreliable (ie., files in some folders not appearing in Lightroom).
I'm not giving up on it (yet) but it is definitely not the photo organization nirvana that I was hoping it would be.
dspeltz
Portsmouth, NH USA
I have been using Lightroom on a PC and it worked well with some minor important problems. I now have it on a MacBook Pro and it works like a charm. It allows for a great deal of manipulation and the workflow is terrific.
Is Lightroom primarily a file-management program, then, cataloging and all that? If so I have that part of the workflow already well in hand, and would be interested more in "digital darkroom" functions. Photoshop is intimidatingly complex, and not specifically attuned to "unmanipulated" type file editing. Maybe Aperture?
BigSteveG
Well-known
I have not had any of these
I have not had any of these
problems at all. It runs fluently in my PC (double core pentium processor) and performs all chores exactly as expected. After two days of using the trial, I've ordered the boxed version.
I have not had any of these
AusDLK said:
problems at all. It runs fluently in my PC (double core pentium processor) and performs all chores exactly as expected. After two days of using the trial, I've ordered the boxed version.
BigSteveG
Well-known
great question....
great question....
LR is both a managment and manipulation program. It does not ( and quite happily) offer some of the more advanced functions of Photoshop, i.e., layers,etc., but that's fine because I don't need or want all that. It offer basic manipulation, i.e., exposure, contrast, sharpening, very good color channeling. It works great with my Nikon's Raw files (much better than the Nikon software) as well as scanned negs/positives. Highly user friendly. Try the trial version, it's free for the downloading!!!!
great question....
Doug said:
LR is both a managment and manipulation program. It does not ( and quite happily) offer some of the more advanced functions of Photoshop, i.e., layers,etc., but that's fine because I don't need or want all that. It offer basic manipulation, i.e., exposure, contrast, sharpening, very good color channeling. It works great with my Nikon's Raw files (much better than the Nikon software) as well as scanned negs/positives. Highly user friendly. Try the trial version, it's free for the downloading!!!!
AusDLK
Famous Photographer
>Maybe Aperture?
Reported by some LR fans, Aperture is TRULY a dog. Likened as one of Apple's few product failures...
(Don't flame me, I just repeating what I was told by some peeps much more in the know then I.)
Reported by some LR fans, Aperture is TRULY a dog. Likened as one of Apple's few product failures...
(Don't flame me, I just repeating what I was told by some peeps much more in the know then I.)
mc_vancouver
Established
lightroom is on sale
lightroom is on sale
Even if you're not entirely sure if you will use LIghtroom, I'd advise you to check it out now while it's one hundred dollars off the full retail price. I bought it although I have yet to get myself a digital camera or start digitizing my negs, because it's a good deal, and looks like it was really well thought out, by photographers, over manymonths of beta testing. In fact I was one of those who learned on the trial version before the first stable release. It is not for effects like Photoshop, but for rapid assessment of pictures and then making adjustments to overall contrast, color, and other parameters, I think it's a way better tool than Photoshop.
lightroom is on sale
Even if you're not entirely sure if you will use LIghtroom, I'd advise you to check it out now while it's one hundred dollars off the full retail price. I bought it although I have yet to get myself a digital camera or start digitizing my negs, because it's a good deal, and looks like it was really well thought out, by photographers, over manymonths of beta testing. In fact I was one of those who learned on the trial version before the first stable release. It is not for effects like Photoshop, but for rapid assessment of pictures and then making adjustments to overall contrast, color, and other parameters, I think it's a way better tool than Photoshop.
Thanks... I'd be looking for something that can eliminate barrel distortion and pincushion distortion, as well as dealing with common perspective distortion ("keystoning"). Dirt/lint spotting, color balance, curves, levels, etc seems to be covered ok with both Lightroom and Aperture?
IGMeanwell
Well-known
Capture NX has a great tool for fixing distortion
also it has that great color point (or U-point) system for selective image enhancement...
However does not have any sort of masking tool for dust spots or blemishes
and for organization you have to rely on its batch processes
also it has that great color point (or U-point) system for selective image enhancement...
However does not have any sort of masking tool for dust spots or blemishes
and for organization you have to rely on its batch processes
amateriat
We're all light!
I'd sort of been under the impression (without looking into it myself) that Lightroom was really aimed at digital-capture folks, rather than scanned-film-workflow people like me, but now it sounds like it might be an interesting alternative to PS (I'm using the original CS), although I'll have to see bow it flies on an older (sub-1GhZ) Mac G4 tower.
- Barrett
- Barrett
jobo
Established
AusDLK said:
I had the same problem, in my case due to leaving the box "detect duplicates" checked. Just in case...
2c, /J
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Kin Lau
Guest
Doug said:
There's a simpler tool for that... PSE 5.0 does all that now and is cheaper.
hofrench@mac.co
Established
I've been using LR from the very first beta, and I think it is a fantastic program.
I use it for digital and scans, and have 13,000 images under its management, very happily, I might add.
I think the Develop module in the latest version is particularly well thought out. The Slideshow and Web functions are quite nice, too.
I run it on ore-Intel Macs, an IMac G5 and a G4 Powerbook, each of which has 2 gig of ram.
On the former, if I'm running it side by side with PS, it purrs.
I use it for digital and scans, and have 13,000 images under its management, very happily, I might add.
I think the Develop module in the latest version is particularly well thought out. The Slideshow and Web functions are quite nice, too.
I run it on ore-Intel Macs, an IMac G5 and a G4 Powerbook, each of which has 2 gig of ram.
On the former, if I'm running it side by side with PS, it purrs.
kaiyen
local man of mystery
I think the key aspect of LR in terms of people who are working with scanned images at all is that...yes, it is targeted towards digital shooters producing large collections of images at once. Photojournalists, sports photographers, wedding photographers, etc. However, it has a lot of asset management tools, and it has some basic tweaking tools...and it's one application!
For me, since I do both digital and scan all kinds of stuff, it works great. If I were only working with scanned film images, I might not get it.
allan
For me, since I do both digital and scan all kinds of stuff, it works great. If I were only working with scanned film images, I might not get it.
allan
boilerdoc2
Well-known
It has an ass kicking RAW developer especially if wanting to convert to B&W! Thumbnail building is fast. Very sweet. The beta version crashed my PC so I was really leery. But now is all good! Check out Luminous Landscapes tutorials for all of $12 total!
Steve
Steve
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
AusDLK said:
I'm guessing you're using either the beta or the 30 day trial?
What constitutes "high-end" PC to you?
I ran Light Room (BETA) on a P-IV 2.8E 2GB RAM XP system and had minor issues such as the scroll bar problem but since moving to the full release I've had no issues. That said.. I'm now on a MAC and it runs flawlessly.
It does do very well with my RAW files from the Canons and seems to do ok with the JPEGS as well.
I personally like it as a converter more than as a library/database tool however I can see how people will like it for its ability to do the latter.
When comparing it to Aperture; LightRoom runs circles around it wrt speed.
Dave
proenca
Proenca
well, i had mac's for the recent years and I love digital manipulation - had digital cameras for ages, quite photoshop savvy, but i enjoy film more and more (heck, i sold all my digital cameras ) since I like doing things right in the first place (less margin for adjustments with a picture taken in film than in digital, with digital you have a huge safety net, you can recover horrible photos and manipulate them to good ones.. that makes you sloppy )
Point taken, I hate aperture. I tried to ( when it came out, I had a Canon 1Ds), i honestly did. In theory its a fantastic program, but its DAMN slow. I love almost all Apple products but this on is a dog. I bought a Aperture guide. Yes, I can do very nice things in Aperture, they just take TIME. loads of time. Once I got the opportunity, I upgraded my mac, which is a fairly quick one by today standards : Core Due 2ghz, 2gb ram, 256 video card... still Aperture is a dog. Takes ages for that thing to do anything. With a combo of Photoshop + iViewMedia i do whatever I want in 1/10 of the time.
I was just wondering about Lightroom.. Seems a nice product ( allows basic image manipulation, should be fine for most of the scan negs , other t han that , Photoshop ) I just wanted to hear from other fellow film users.
Thank you all
Point taken, I hate aperture. I tried to ( when it came out, I had a Canon 1Ds), i honestly did. In theory its a fantastic program, but its DAMN slow. I love almost all Apple products but this on is a dog. I bought a Aperture guide. Yes, I can do very nice things in Aperture, they just take TIME. loads of time. Once I got the opportunity, I upgraded my mac, which is a fairly quick one by today standards : Core Due 2ghz, 2gb ram, 256 video card... still Aperture is a dog. Takes ages for that thing to do anything. With a combo of Photoshop + iViewMedia i do whatever I want in 1/10 of the time.
I was just wondering about Lightroom.. Seems a nice product ( allows basic image manipulation, should be fine for most of the scan negs , other t han that , Photoshop ) I just wanted to hear from other fellow film users.
Thank you all
P C Headland
Well-known
If you primarily shot film, I don't think Lightroom would be that useful. It does come into its own if you are largely a digital shooter though.
What you may like to experiment with is Lightzone. I've been playing around with this on a Linux box (the Linux version is free, Windows and Mac versions cost money), and have to say I'm impressed. If nothing else, it's helped me understand some of the Photoshop tools a little better. There is a free trial version for Windows and Mac.
What you may like to experiment with is Lightzone. I've been playing around with this on a Linux box (the Linux version is free, Windows and Mac versions cost money), and have to say I'm impressed. If nothing else, it's helped me understand some of the Photoshop tools a little better. There is a free trial version for Windows and Mac.