LOL Canon EF Sales crush mirrorless competition, No Kidding

[CameraQuest]

Canon Sold More EF DSLRs in 2024 Than Fujifilm Sold Total Digital Cameras - Petapixel​

EF - THE ZOMBIE LENS MOUNT THAT WOULD NOT DIE

Canon Sold More DSLRs in 2024 Than Fujifilm Sold Total Digital Cameras

While the DSLR market is shrinking, it's still quite large, and Canon owns nearly all of it.

petapixel.com

For 2024 Canon sold 790,000 EF mount DSLRs. Nikon sold 70,000 DSLRs, Pentax less than 10,000.

"Canon sold more EF DSLRs in 2024 than most camera companies sold digital cameras in total, including Fujifilm (740,000), Panasonic (280,000), OM Digital (160,000), and Ricoh Imaging (70,000)"

Damn, all of that success for a DSLR lineup whose last new EF lens was introduced in 2018, the last EF SLR in 2020.

UNDUCKINGBELIEVABLE

Looking at the Canon USA website,
apparently Canon's hard won USA DSLR marketplace victory came via an outstanding lineup
of only ONE full frame DSLR -- the venerable EOS EF 5D Mark IV
complete with a whopping 30.3 megapickles of utterly astounding 2016 technology.
The EF DSLR best seller is apparently the APS-C EF EOS Rebel T7 with 24.1 megapickles

This is an astounding marketing victory for Canon.
If your horses are slow and aged, they still win if the race is about love.

 

[trix4ever]

Funny, I've never liked Canon SLR's but at this late stage I've just discovered EF lenses.
I found a cheap MC-21 adapter and I've just bought an 11-24mm EF and 17mm ts-e EF for use on my S1r and SL2-S for industrial landscape and architectural projects.
They made some stunning EF lenses that have never been replaced in the mirrorless mount. That 85mm f1.2 looks tempting too.
I'm being sucked down a rabbit hole...

 

[dexdog]

I have used three fullframe Canon SLRs, a lot of really great lenses. My favorite that I first used on a wildlife safari in South Africa is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II USM. A beautiful lens. Why would it be a surprise that Canon outsold other brands? Sales figures tell the story.

 

[Miles.]

A few years ago I started worrying that a purely optical viewfinder would soon be considered a "luxury" feature, with Leica, and maybe Pentax, being the last to produce them.

It seems the market is speaking, and I hope the camera manufacturers are listening.

 

[peterm1]

I have been reading reports recently that there has been a resurgence of interest in DSLRs and associated equipment. I suppose this is partly attributable to folks like us who have kept our DSLRs, have started using them again for whatever reason (nostalgia perhaps) and are now seeking more lenses for them while the prices are still a little "soft". Even so with the advent of some really quite good electronic adapters allowing such lenses to be mounted on various mirrorless cameras I suspect the demand for choice DSLR lenses in particular will continue unabated at least for now. Also I have noticed a sudden interest in DSLR cameras amongst younger members of the trendoid set who now see these older cameras as "cool" and "vintage". (The same affectation is affecting the price of old digital pocket cameras which now have a reputation for producing unique images.) this sudden interest may also be partly due to the realization that the old CCD sensors, while limited in capabilities compared to modern CMOS sensors, have their own charm.

 

[Cascadilla]

Some of us buy cameras to meet particular needs, and don't jump on whatever bandwagon camera companies would like us to. I am a happy Pentax DSLR user with a good collection of lenses that I need and it would take a lot to get me to switch. A Canon 5D Mk 4 is a very capable camera and Canon has made lots of great EF mount lenses so I'm not surprised that it still sells well. Are there cameras with better, faster autofocus or higher frame rates out there? Of course, but not all of us need those features, and not all of us are willing or able to pay what they cost.

 

[Freakscene]

The vast majority of the sales are Rebel series dSLRs like the T8i, which are selling through non-specialist stores. Canon probably manufactured them some time ago.

The data mostly show that what enthusiasts and professionals buy is not what moves units.

 

[Jason Schneider]

Canon Sold More EF DSLRs in 2024 Than Fujifilm Sold Total Digital Cameras - Petapixel​

EF - THE ZOMBIE LENS MOUNT THAT WOULD NOT DIE

Canon Sold More DSLRs in 2024 Than Fujifilm Sold Total Digital Cameras

While the DSLR market is shrinking, it's still quite large, and Canon owns nearly all of it.

petapixel.com

For 2024 Canon sold 790,000 EF mount DSLRs. Nikon sold 70,000 DSLRs, Pentax less than 10,000.

"Canon sold more EF DSLRs in 2024 than most camera companies sold digital cameras in total, including Fujifilm (740,000), Panasonic (280,000), OM Digital (160,000), and Ricoh Imaging (70,000)"

Damn, all of that success for a DSLR lineup whose last new EF lens was introduced in 2018, the last EF SLR in 2020.

UNDUCKINGBELIEVABLE

Looking at the Canon USA website,
apparently Canon's hard won USA DSLR marketplace victory came via an outstanding lineup
of only ONE full frame DSLR -- the venerable EOS EF 5D Mark IV
complete with a whopping 30.3 megapickles of utterly astounding 2016 technology.
The EF DSLR best seller is apparently the APS-C EF EOS Rebel T7 with 24.1 megapickles

This is an astounding marketing victory for Canon.
If your horses are slow and aged, they still win if the race is about love.

Great story! Love it!

 

[Tim Murphy]

Some of us buy cameras to meet particular needs, and don't jump on whatever bandwagon camera companies would like us to. I am a happy Pentax DSLR user with a good collection of lenses that I need and it would take a lot to get me to switch. A Canon 5D Mk 4 is a very capable camera and Canon has made lots of great EF mount lenses so I'm not surprised that it still sells well. Are there cameras with better, faster autofocus or higher frame rates out there? Of course, but not all of us need those features, and not all of us are willing or able to pay what they cost.

Dear Cascadilla,

As someone who started their digital journey with a used EOS 20D followed by a used EOS 1DMarkII because I had EOS mount lenses left over from my earlier film days I'm struggling to figure out where I lost my mind, and my way?

I have digital cameras and lenses for 4 systems, thankfully almost all purchased used; to take pictures I could still be taking with my early digital Canons.

I wish I could stop! 😉

Regards,

Tim Murphy

Harrisburg PA 🙂

 

[PRJ]

I just could never get on the mirrorless bandwagon. Looking in the viewfinder at a video screen just s#cks. I prefer to see what is really there. And although mirrorless cameras are smaller than DSLRs, the result of that is that the lenses are larger.

I wish Canon would have kept going with SLRs. I have a 5Ds. Such a great camera. I also have a Sony A7RII which I use for scanning negs. The Sony works great for that.

 

[Freakscene]

I just could never get on the mirrorless bandwagon. Looking in the viewfinder at a video screen just s#cks. I prefer to see what is really there. And although mirrorless cameras are smaller than DSLRs, the result of that is that the lenses are larger.

I wish Canon would have kept going with SLRs. I have a 5Ds. Such a great camera. I also have a Sony A7RII which I use for scanning negs. The Sony works great for that.

Everything about mirrorless cameras can facilitate lenses being smaller. The problem is that performance demands have increased a lot with high resolution sensors. It’s probably impossible to make a compact lens that sells for an under $2K that resolves 85% + at 30 or 40 lp/mm.

 

[Archiver]

There are generations who shot with DSLR's and the EF system, myself included. I still find them fun and useful, and the lenses will be usable for years to come. My 30D is 19 years old and still going strong.

 

[peterm1]

Addendum to my post above. Yes, I still have quite a few Nikkor AF lenses and a D200 and D700 camera on which I use them. Plus many MF lenses which I more often use on mirrorless these days. But the AF ones do still get a run on my AF cameras and damn nice they are too, though by modern standards the earlier AF ones are a bit noisy and a little slower to focus than I would like thee days. Never the less. I will continue to use them and these cameras. when the mood takes me for as long as I can. And I often shoot street photography and there are days when I just feel I need the added help of an AF to nail the shot.

 

[p.giannakis]

There are generations who shot with DSLR's and the EF system, myself included. I still find them fun and useful, and the lenses will be usable for years to come. My 30D is 19 years old and still going strong.

Yes. The 10D is my only digital camera and bought it long long ago.

I still use it if i need to take a pic of my other cameras and occasionally will show some error messages but other than that it is still usable.

 

[Cascadilla]

Everything about mirrorless cameras can facilitate lenses being smaller. The problem is that performance demands have increased a lot with high resolution sensors. It’s probably impossible to make a compact lens that sells for an under $2K that resolves 85% + at 30 or 40 lp/mm.

One of my students switched from a Nikon DSLR to a Nikon mirrorless in order to save weight and bulk. What he found was that the body was smaller and lighter, but the equivalent walk around zoom lens was much bigger and heavier so it was a wash. And for the studio lighting class that I teach, mirrorless can be a real problem when you have the shutter speed set to sync speed and you're stopped down using studio strobes with modeling lights. The view at that point is almost non-existent on a lot of these cameras, and switching to a B setting to lighten it sometimes requires menu diving again and again. I realize that most photographers aren't shooting with studio strobes but it is frustrating that camera makers don't think about some of these things when they are adding features that most of us don't need.

 

[Freakscene]

One of my students switched from a Nikon DSLR to a Nikon mirrorless in order to save weight and bulk. What he found was that the body was smaller and lighter, but the equivalent walk around zoom lens was much bigger and heavier so it was a wash. And for the studio lighting class that I teach, mirrorless can be a real problem when you have the shutter speed set to sync speed and you're stopped down using studio strobes with modeling lights. The view at that point is almost non-existent on a lot of these cameras, and switching to a B setting to lighten it sometimes requires menu diving again and again. I realize that most photographers aren't shooting with studio strobes but it is frustrating that camera makers don't think about some of these things when they are adding features that most of us don't need.

In mid to pro level mirrorless cameras you can slow the viewfinder refresh rate and match the lighting. It just takes a bit of getting used to the new viewing system and getting it to work with the lighting. This is not affected by the shutterspeed set. There are also some more compact zooms, but that depends on the system. Sensors are menough better that a 2-3 stop loss of lens speed is no problem.

 

[rulnacco]

In mid to pro level mirrorless cameras you can slow the viewfinder refresh rate and match the lighting. It just takes a bit of getting used to the new viewing system and getting it to work with the lighting. This is not affected by the shutterspeed set. There are also some more compact zooms, but that depends on the system. Sensors are menough better that a 2-3 stop loss of lens speed is no problem.

Yeah, I'm a bit ambivalent still about my move to the Z8. But it's easy to alternate between seeing the ambient exposure in the viewfinder and setting it to make viewing easier. Since I use my camera both in the wild and in the studio, I just added it as a function I can access via touch from the rear LCD. I've even set other people's cheap Canon mirrorless cameras to do the same (minus the custom access) when they were using them while renting my studio. I figured by now every mirrorless camera comes with that feature, even if you might have to access it from the menu system.

 

[Pioneer]

Camera? What's that? I don't think people even buy them anymore.

I watched a young man posing a young, beautiful, model in front of various collector cars at a car show yesterday and shooting them with his cell phone. That went on for half the afternoon. Sometimes I just feel old.

At least I had color film in my Zeiss Ikon Contax II.

 

[Disappointed_Horse]

Everything about mirrorless cameras can facilitate lenses being smaller. The problem is that performance demands have increased a lot with high resolution sensors. It’s probably impossible to make a compact lens that sells for an under $2K that resolves 85% + at 30 or 40 lp/mm.

I'm sure that's true if you're talking about wide open performance. Stop down to f/5.6 or f/8 and I'm pretty sure most 50 year old lenses would meet that standard.

I don't understand why almost every lens introduced today has to be designed to be razor sharp in the corners at full aperture, with the consequent enormous size and high price. Those type of lenses are great for astrophotography or maybe if you want to shoot landscapes under moonlight, and I'm glad they are available for those who need them, but for most other situations these lenses are not necessary and are far too big, heavy, and expensive.

 

[Cascadilla]

In mid to pro level mirrorless cameras you can slow the viewfinder refresh rate and match the lighting. It just takes a bit of getting used to the new viewing system and getting it to work with the lighting. This is not affected by the shutterspeed set. There are also some more compact zooms, but that depends on the system. Sensors are menough better that a 2-3 stop loss of lens speed is no problem.

My students tend to have entry level cameras, so it isn't as easy to fix as what you're describing.