M8 - images...

No exif data either ... nor image data that size what what scanned it

so can't confirm if that guy was carrying another leica with him or if this is just bull

I take it back

one did have its exif data: Though I don't know that kind of image at F1 ? I think they are still working on the firmwear

Make - Leica Camera AG
Model - M8 Digital Camera
Orientation - Top left
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - Adobe Photoshop CS Windows
DateTime - 2006:10:14 08:30:27
YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
ExifOffset - 232
ExposureTime - 1/750.2 seconds
ExposureProgram - Manual control
ISOSpeedRatings - 160
ExifVersion - 0221
DateTimeOriginal - 2006:10:13 10:15:27
DateTimeDigitized - 2006:10:13 10:15:27
ComponentsConfiguration -
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/724 seconds
ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
MaxApertureValue - F 1.00
MeteringMode - Center weighted average
LightSource - Auto
Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode
FocalLength - 0.00 mm
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - Uncalibrated
ExifImageWidth - 935
ExifImageHeight - 624
FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera
SceneType - A directly photographed image
CustomRendered - Normal process
WhiteBalance - Manual
DigitalZoomRatio - 0.00/0.00 x
SceneCaptureType - Standard
Contrast - Normal
Saturation - Normal
Sharpness - Normal
 
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Exif says M8

Exif says M8

Mark Norton said:
Yes, and if the person with the M to his eye is the photographer, his "M8" has a film rewind knob.
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Mark - the guy who took this picture used an m8 according to the exif. The pictures are kind of mixed up -some apparently film, others M8.

If you don't have an exif reader, the M-8 ones have a file title beginning with 'L' when you move the cursor over the photo.
 
Here's one

remember its not mine ... were borrowing it for observational purposes

This is the picture with the exif data

Courtesy of Chris_H on the Leica forum
 

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If those ISO 2500 shots are legit, it is pretty impressive. In B&W it would beat any film.
 
Hard to tell much from these

Hard to tell much from these

Except that the camera exists and is capable of taking pictures, which is comforting.
 
jaapv said:
If those ISO 2500 shots are legit, it is pretty impressive. In B&W it would beat any film.
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Is that typical of digital to be so crisp? A lot of folks, especially with B&W, would not find that so appealing. I know these are digital neophyte type comments, but my first impression was "Wow, that's 3D like." It's kind of jarring to the senses. Does digital print out like that?

I
 
I'm referring to the mountain terrain landscape pictures.


Sometimes I get the impression that things can be too crisp; too 3D like. It's like shooting the 50mm Summilux ASPH in harsh lighting. Teh result is that things can appear too delineated. I guess all high quality digital is like that?
 
What's the point of pixelpeeping at some lousy pictures??
Am i missing something here?

Sean Reid and others who used the M8 said think DMR ... so look at GOOD pictures from that camera.
Or buy the october number of LFI magazine which has about 8 M8 pictures printed in it taken by a Magnum Photographer.

THis all makes little to no sense ..
 
sgy1962 said:
Is that typical of digital to be so crisp? A lot of folks, especially with B&W, would not find that so appealing. I know these are digital neophyte type comments, but my first impression was "Wow, that's 3D like." It's kind of jarring to the senses. Does digital print out like that?

I
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In a digital photo, it is easy to perform sharpening (without sharpening, digital will look kind of soft) - and if it is expertly done (in camera or photoshop), the photo will look really, really crisp. If it is done poorly the high contrast edges will look "hot" and might have a lot of "pop" but will be fatiguing and cartooney to look at long term.

If this is using the cameras sharpening + typical Leica optics - they did good. Really good. :eek::D
 
sgy1962 said:
I'm referring to the mountain terrain landscape pictures.


Sometimes I get the impression that things can be too crisp; too 3D like. It's like shooting the 50mm Summilux ASPH in harsh lighting. Teh result is that things can appear too delineated. I guess all high quality digital is like that?
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Nope. It is all in the processing - you have to be careful with sharpening or you can get that. If you look at a high contrast area - going light to dark - you will see that the lighter edge gets a little brighter before the transition to dark - that is a (I don't lknow the techncial term) "hot" edge and is the result of over sharpening to give the impage extra "pop." It is a defect.

A good example of this is (note the reviewer is concentrating on ggrain and seems to miss this defect):

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/shootout.shtml

(look for the 100% crop comparing the Pentax 67ii to the Canon 1Ds - and you will see the 1Ds image with "hot" edges compared with the scanned film. The reviewer is convinced by the "pop" of the impage that it has more reoslution - but aside from grain, there is subtlety of shading present in the film not present in that digital image)

With sharpening, an image will appear to have more resolution, without actually having more resolution. Also you can interpolate ("rezzing up") to heighten the illusion as well.

The Leica with 10 mp will have good reoslution, but the quality of those pixels - absence of chroma through their microlens array as well as some built in correction for lens abberration, should allow the Leica image to be superior to a typical 10mp camera. Interetsing the Leica have chosen to improve in areas that are hard or impossioble to do post processing which is especially impressive given that it is easier usually to can a few photoshop routines and put it in the firmware.

Equally impressive is their adoption of DNG - which is a stable "raw" style format that is not going obsolete and allows for 12 bits per color.
 
As John Camp pointed out in another thread, Leica is so idiotic in the regard of how they managed the release of images from the M8. Instead of showing the public some badass images shot by credible photogs that really trump the advantages of the M8, the first batch of images we are treated to are these piss-poor snap shots that look like they could have been shot on a 5 year old Canon D30..

Hint to Leica: If you really wanted to control the release of picture from the M8, perhaps you should have disabled write capability to the SD card in your demo cameras.. sheesh..
 
jaapv said:
If those ISO 2500 shots are legit, it is pretty impressive. In B&W it would beat any film.
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yes it beats any film !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you may think so if you look long enough at a monitor
 
ywenz said:
As John Camp pointed out in another thread, Leica is so idiotic in the regard of how they managed the release of images from the M8. Instead of showing the public some badass images shot by credible photogs that really trump the advantages of the M8, the first batch of images we are treated to are these piss-poor snap shots that look like they could have been shot on a 5 year old Canon D30..

Hint to Leica: If you really wanted to control the release of picture from the M8, perhaps you should have disabled write capability to the SD card in your demo cameras.. sheesh..
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It might all be to their plan - who knows. unoffical "leaks" tend to generate a bunch more buzz than official ones.

From what I can see they are handling the release brilliantly. And all these forums are giving them a ton of free advertising.
 
And.. Photographing mountains is an ancient Leica tradition, they even once built a special lens for it : the Mountain-Hector
 
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