aizan
Veteran
calling all users of the mamiya 7! now that we know the price of the fuji gf670 (at least in japan), do you plan on buying one? i'd like to see a lens comparison before plunking down the cash.
chris000
Landscaper
I voted no. Given that I do already own a Mamiya 7 (which I'm very happy with), I'm not sure why would I want buy one whatever the price?
Tuolumne
Veteran
I'd probably just add the 80mm lens to my collection.
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nanthor
Well-known
Guess I missed it, what is the price?
Svitantti
Well-known
I believe this new camera has totally different advantages than a Mamiya 7, so I dont really see why many Mamiya users would change to Fuji/Voigtländer.
gdi
Veteran
Personally, I can't imagine why you would need it if you have the Mamiya, but I am sure there are those who will see it differently.
Nanthor - I believe the rumored price is over $2000...
Nanthor - I believe the rumored price is over $2000...
Svitantti
Well-known
In the other thread there is a link to a japanese internet shop that has listed the camera with a price, for about $2500. This is of course just one example and probably not exactly what it will be in the end when others start selling it.
It is obvious that this 6x7 is much smaller when folded than the Mamiya, but also it has one single focal lenght fixed to it and probably is not just as reliable in long run as the Mamiya. You can buy many Super Ikontas etc. for that price. I guess still many enthusiasts could buy it, but for that price I dont see it as a reasonable tool for a photographer who just aims in taking photos... Rather a toy for camera people.
It is obvious that this 6x7 is much smaller when folded than the Mamiya, but also it has one single focal lenght fixed to it and probably is not just as reliable in long run as the Mamiya. You can buy many Super Ikontas etc. for that price. I guess still many enthusiasts could buy it, but for that price I dont see it as a reasonable tool for a photographer who just aims in taking photos... Rather a toy for camera people.
tensai
Established
Bob Michaels
nobody special
CK Dexter Haven
Well-known
A Rolleiflex has only one lens attached to it. How many of the world's most important photographs were shot with that camera?
Super Ikontas etc. don't have integral meters, do they? That, for me, changes the game completely. It's like when i first considered buying a Leica. An M3 is a beautiful tool, but without a meter. Then, there was the M6. With a meter, but not the kind of meter i want to use. When the M7 came out, it was the kind of camera that would work the way I wanted it to work, and didn't force me to change my methods for a piece of hardware. This is no different. I want a compact-ish 6x7 travel camera.
Just because it has a bellows and folds doesn't make it 'unreasonable,' nor a toy.
PATB
Established
Nope. If I had the money, I'd rather get another lens for the Mamiya.
Svitantti
Well-known
Most Rolleiflexes neither have integral meter. Many photographers use handheld meters anyway. Incident light metering is very popular and a good method.
M7 compared to M4-P, M4 etc. is much like this Fuji compared to a Super Ikonta.
To many, an M7 is not among the most reliable or professional tools. It has electronic shutter and more electronics and automation. I could say from my perspective it is a toy for rich people who like Leica. Not really that great as user camera for photographers.
I guess a 1600 EUR 6x7 for a travel camera sounds like what I was talking about.
I know, that is why I am talking about Super Ikontas and Plaubel Makina. Personally I shoow with a Super Baldax 6x6 folder.
hiromu
Established
I used to have Mamiya 7II, and if I have money to buy the new Fuji/Voigtlander, then I would buy another Mamiya 7II with 80mm, and keep the change for films/processing...
snausages
Well-known
It would be very nice to throw a metered, RF coupled modern folding MF camera in a messenger bag, but I can't justify buying this camera for myself for the price. My M7, 43mm and 80mm have cost hundreds less.
richdirector
Member
I would - it folds small great to travel with and I hated the plastic feel of the Mamiya 7. I currently shoot handheld with a horseman sw612 so not averse to size but prefer to feel the quality. (no pun intended)
nbphoto
Member
I dont this its aimed at Mamiya 7 owners to be fair.
I was in a position a few months ago, owning a heavy medium format outfit, and wanting to have a small pocket camera. I wanted a MF travel camera so I did not need to hold 120 and 35mm film in stock. I wanted a built in meter (less to carry). I wanted a normal lens and a wide. etc..
If the new fuji had come along (before the recession), I would have bought one, or waited a bit and see if they come out with a 50-60mm version. In the end I got a M6TTL as it met all the requirements except using the same film stock. If the Fuji had interchangerble lenses I would have it in a heartbeat and sell the Leica. All things to all men (and women)
I was in a position a few months ago, owning a heavy medium format outfit, and wanting to have a small pocket camera. I wanted a MF travel camera so I did not need to hold 120 and 35mm film in stock. I wanted a built in meter (less to carry). I wanted a normal lens and a wide. etc..
If the new fuji had come along (before the recession), I would have bought one, or waited a bit and see if they come out with a 50-60mm version. In the end I got a M6TTL as it met all the requirements except using the same film stock. If the Fuji had interchangerble lenses I would have it in a heartbeat and sell the Leica. All things to all men (and women)
kram
Well-known
If it was a 6x9 maybe, but a 6x7, no.
craygc
Well-known
Another one for "why would I bother?" I have 2x 7II bodies already and for the price of the folder, I could buy a brand new 7II body + 80mm lens and still get change. Even my 43mm lens - new - was way under that price. Yes, its a space saver but for me, I'm either shooting MF or I'm not so conveniently collapsible body just doesn't deliver any value to me...
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
I'm still scratching my head as to why this folder is not digital with a large version of Fuji's super-duper S5 Pro sensor.
nuckabean
Established
The only thing I like about it more than my 7 is that it has the 6x6 option and I'd like square sometimes but I'd sell my 7 and get a 6 before I bought one of these guys.