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Hey all,

I am looking at a new printer, and some new paper choices. Well the printer is down to a grudge match between the R1800 and R2400 (and the winner will probably kick my poor R800 out of the house). With the option of buying the Piezography K7 ink set, the R1800 may be taking the lead, but the fight is still on.

Now comes the paper. Does anyone here have any experience with the Moab Paper companies line? I am VERY interested in the Entrada 190 Natural. It looks very promising with their Chinle Digital book. Like an easy, but nicely built and reasonably priced little album...

Does anyone here use the Moab papers?

Thanks!

Rob.
 
I really wish he had tested the Natural:)

Have you? I find it interesting he has since the test up rated it nearly accrossed the baord, very nice for him to keep it updated.

ALso, have you by chance noticed any difference between the 190 and 300g/m2? I wouldn't expect it, but figure ask anyways... hate to get a suprise.

Thanks!
 
I have tried a couple of moab matte papers. I had some trouble with flaking and stopped using them.
Now I am trying a couple of papers from www.redriverpaper.com, and so far I like them better. Especially their 65# premium matte C2S.

Gary
 
I use Moab Natural and Bright White in 300GSM...Epson 2200, OEM Epson pigments.

I don't measure or care about Dmax. Being true matte, these papers simply can't produce the black of a semi-gloss or gloss. I suspect they're as good as Epson Enhanced Matte, but more archival.

About a year ago Moab identified the famous "flaking" as due to failing to vacuum the paper after cutting and before packaging...they recommended compressed air and/or wiping with a rag.

The paper wasn't "flaking," but printing on it meant printing over dust, which would then fall off leaving white spots. Cans of compressed air (office depot) on all sheets of Moab and other expensive papers has completely eliminated that problem, INCLUDING on a batch that had been identified as flaking. I think the issue's finished, but I air-dust every sheet of big, expensive paper just to be sure.

I may be shifting from Entrada Natural to Illuminata Ultrasmooth Natural...similar warm tone, surface is slightly harder/smoother. But the whitened version is gorgeous.

My source for paper (and expert paper information on the website) is www.inkjetart.com
 
...about Dmax...

When I display a print it's always under glass. As a result, Dmax-as-seen is deepened beyond what you see in the paper before the glass.

Happily, my favorite frames are also the cheapest : I get mine from Hobby Lobby (ecch!) but I've seen them all over...$10USD per 16X20...work great with 13X19 paper, reusable over and over....

If I was concerned more about the look of unmounted prints I might be yearning for a 2400 in order to make better semi-gloss prints...
 
djon said:
I don't measure or care about Dmax.
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I don't measure dmax either. But if I print something and it looks flatter because I can't get a rich enough black, I notice that.

allan
 
I have used Entrada Natural 190 and 300 gsm in my Epson 2200 - no real difference in print quality, but of course the heavier paper feels like higher quality. You do have to brush before use to eliminate surface dust.

The Natural gives an extremely attractive warm tone to BW using ImagePrint RIP - not sure I am crazy about the paper for colour, though.

Kirk
 
I use QTRgui rather than Epson driver for B&W...superb B&W results, warm to cool depending on what I want, amazing control...the EASIEST application of any type that I've ever used. I MAY get some MIS Eboni in order to print "black-only" because I think it looks a little sharper in certain images.

I'm drifting away from Moab Entrada Natural, toward Illuminata Ultra Smooth (not quite as warm, harder surface... inkjetart.com ...
 
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