conradyiu
closer
Dear all,
I'm quite satisfied with my XA however, only aperture priority is not good (fun) enough.
I have an Oly RD but it seems a bit large for my pocket.
Do anyone of you know which is the most compact RF with full manual control?
Thanks
I'm quite satisfied with my XA however, only aperture priority is not good (fun) enough.
I have an Oly RD but it seems a bit large for my pocket.
Do anyone of you know which is the most compact RF with full manual control?
Thanks
sepiareverb
genius and moron
You might think about a Retina?
btgc
Veteran
Oly 35RC, Ricoh 500G/GX? Also depends how slow speeds are you expecting.
NickTrop
Veteran
Since you're shooting an XA lens speed isn't a huge priority but you're concerned about cost so the answer is easy and obvious and there's only one. The Oly RC. Fairly inexpensive (but prices have gone up), small, all manual, with an f2.8 lens.
btgc
Veteran
Lynx 5000 also is rather small[ish] FL RF. It's certainly bigger than 35RC, 500GX and other in this class. Lens barrel is larger, body also a bit.
Lens opening to 1.8 allows shots with narrower DOF than those with max. f2.8
I will not count presence of slow speeds as significant plus because till now after 1/15 I have went for several seconds in B mode. Maybe it could change depending in film, it's sensitivity, rather.
Another nice feature is f/22 and 1/1000th - adds some flexibility for use of fast film in daylight.
Not an option if you want especially compact RF with "flat" lens (not very protruding). In this class I like Electro 35 MC (with it's Av automation and battery dependency) - quite a shooter. Small, compact, reliable Av camera. Don't miss speed adjustment for it, actually.
Lens opening to 1.8 allows shots with narrower DOF than those with max. f2.8
I will not count presence of slow speeds as significant plus because till now after 1/15 I have went for several seconds in B mode. Maybe it could change depending in film, it's sensitivity, rather.
Another nice feature is f/22 and 1/1000th - adds some flexibility for use of fast film in daylight.
Not an option if you want especially compact RF with "flat" lens (not very protruding). In this class I like Electro 35 MC (with it's Av automation and battery dependency) - quite a shooter. Small, compact, reliable Av camera. Don't miss speed adjustment for it, actually.
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
Retina IIa is a folder and very compact when collapsed (50/2 Xenar lens also; excellent). Fully manual -- no meter. But the Olympus 35RC and Ricoh 500G are probably a little smaller yet.
You said RF so I assume that's what you meant -- Rollei 35 is indeed smaller but of course is zone focus.
You said RF so I assume that's what you meant -- Rollei 35 is indeed smaller but of course is zone focus.
FrankS
Registered User
Rollei 35 models with Tessar or Sonnar lens. Usually between $100 and $250. I prefer the ones with the meter needle visible in the top plate, rather than the later versions with LEDs in the viewfinder.
Oops, just read about RF requirement. The rest of the camera is so good though, you could live with scale focus.
Oops, just read about RF requirement. The rest of the camera is so good though, you could live with scale focus.
Sonny Boy Havidson
Established
The XA is the smaller-ever RF. The second one is the Olympus 35 RC : almost the same body as your RD but a smaller lens.
ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
A few nice compacts I have owned:
Ricoh 500G:
Shutter priority AE plus manual exposure mode
Unique in that meter continues to work in manual
Olympus 35RC, Minolta 7SII:
Shutter priority AE plus manual exposure mode
Meter shuts off in manual
Petri Color 35:
Metered manual exposure only
Scale focus (no rangefinder) - has a terrific distance scale in the finder
(IMO *far* better than most rangefinders)
Chris
Ricoh 500G:
Shutter priority AE plus manual exposure mode
Unique in that meter continues to work in manual
Olympus 35RC, Minolta 7SII:
Shutter priority AE plus manual exposure mode
Meter shuts off in manual
Petri Color 35:
Metered manual exposure only
Scale focus (no rangefinder) - has a terrific distance scale in the finder
(IMO *far* better than most rangefinders)
Chris
mh2000
Well-known
I would second the Retina suggestion. Full manual everything and a lens that will blow away the XA's... and still pretty small (smaller than any Barnack camera w/f2 lens).
Rollei's are fun and beautiful... Minox have less than the XA even, but much better lenses...
Rollei's are fun and beautiful... Minox have less than the XA even, but much better lenses...
conradyiu
closer
Thanks all of yours advices. I should learn more about Retina before buy one ....
iskraII
Member
Contax T with aperture priority
feenej
Well-known
Yeah Olympus 35 RC. I used mine in manual mode a lot; the AE is broken.
iamzip
Ambitious, but rubbish
I was going to suggest the Minolta TC-1, but that's aperture priority as well.
spysmart
Established
Fully manual controls and more pocketable than any other camera 
Minox AX : I used to load one with Fuji 800 and the other with T400CN (which had finer grain at 8x10" than Tri-X 35mm at the same size).
With the 15mm lens and f/3.5 aperture, there is no problem with scale focusing.
Minox AX : I used to load one with Fuji 800 and the other with T400CN (which had finer grain at 8x10" than Tri-X 35mm at the same size).

With the 15mm lens and f/3.5 aperture, there is no problem with scale focusing.
blw
Well-known
There's also the Petri Racer (at least I think that one is manual) and the Argus C 3 & 4 (isn't the 3 fixed lens and the 4 interchangeable?).
racoll
Well-known
Another vote for the Olympus 35RC, a superb camera with an outstanding lens and a very compact size. It's amazing to me that Olympus was able to cram so many features (including an off-switch!) into such a small camera and still attain such a high level of quality. The Ricoh 500 G is also a very nice camera with a nice lens, but the Olympus is a nicer step up in my opinion.
shannonjohn
Newbie
Yet again with the RC
chut
Luceat Lux Vestra
I second the vote for the Contax T. Manual focus rangefinder with aperture priority and an incredible Sonnar 40mm lens in an ultra compact body.
I believe only the Minolta TC-1 is more compact, but the Contax has a more versatile focal length.
I believe only the Minolta TC-1 is more compact, but the Contax has a more versatile focal length.
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wallace
Well-known
Olympus 35RC, no doubt.
wallace
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