jim0266
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I rented an M262 and wrote an in-depth review of the camera. It's heavily weighted between the M-E/M9 and the 262's differences, but also looks at what Leica changed from the 240 series. Read the review
fenixv8
Established
Excellent review. Thank you for posted.
raid
Dad Photographer
Thanks for the review Jim. I still like using my M9 as I mostly use ISO 160 with it. I hardly ever really target high ISO scenes.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
That's a really good review; thanks so much. FYI, the video doesn't show up for me; it says "video does not exist."
ChrisLivsey
Veteran
Thank you for the review, I appreciate the hands on tone and the relevant comparisons.
One small question please?
You say "Compared to the M-E the auto white balance on the M262 is more accurate"
On what evidence do you base that statement?
Not being confrontational BTW genuinely curious how you went about the comparison and against what standard.
Just to add all the videos work fine for me, Safari and also checked on Chrome.
One small question please?
You say "Compared to the M-E the auto white balance on the M262 is more accurate"
On what evidence do you base that statement?
Not being confrontational BTW genuinely curious how you went about the comparison and against what standard.
Just to add all the videos work fine for me, Safari and also checked on Chrome.
raid
Dad Photographer
The video plays directly when I click on the link.
rscheffler
Well-known
I assume it will be the case, as it is with the M240, but I'm wondering if the 262's frame rate drops from about 3 fps to roughly 1 fps at ISO 1250 and higher? Also in conjunction with this, wondering if the buffer capacity drops from about 13 frames at ISO 1000 and lower to about 6-7 at ISO 1250 and higher? (DNG only, if it makes a difference)
Any chance you could do a quick check of this?
This is coming from someone who does often hit the buffer limit. It was much more frustrating with the M9 and better with the M240. Logically, I should be looking at the M-P 240, but will probably wait and see what the next M offers.
And as someone who shoots at lot with lenses wider than 28mm, the 240's live view is useful for more precise framing vs. the auxiliary optical finders. But if you're rarely going to shoot wider than 28, the 262 certainly is compelling. I have to admit it intrigues me and I like the styling, though with used M/M-P240 prices now...
Any chance you could do a quick check of this?
This is coming from someone who does often hit the buffer limit. It was much more frustrating with the M9 and better with the M240. Logically, I should be looking at the M-P 240, but will probably wait and see what the next M offers.
And as someone who shoots at lot with lenses wider than 28mm, the 240's live view is useful for more precise framing vs. the auxiliary optical finders. But if you're rarely going to shoot wider than 28, the 262 certainly is compelling. I have to admit it intrigues me and I like the styling, though with used M/M-P240 prices now...
jim0266
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Hi Chris,
Take a look at the RAW photos I posted for download from the review. When I took the same image with both cameras of the same subjects and looked at them in LR, whites or neutral gray portions were closer to neutral with the 262 in almost every case. Photos 281 and 4049 from my uploads is a good example. There is a a white semi trailer at the right in the images. The 262 file is showing 88.1R, 88.3G,87.8B. The M-E file is 90.8R, 91.5G,93.1B
Image 4070 vs 304 is another good example to examine. Again, taken in daylight, there is a fairly neutral white building in background to measure against. The RAW files look completely different.
ChrisLivsey
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I will indeed thanks for the prompt and helpful response.
jim0266
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Image quality gains are only 1600 above on the 262 over the M9. South of that it's all user experience improvements between the cameras.
jim0266
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You're welcome. Would like to hear your observations after examining the RAW files. Shoot me an email.
ferider
Veteran
Very nice, Jim, thanks.
Does it have B+W JPG options ? With filters ? Thanks,
Roland.
Does it have B+W JPG options ? With filters ? Thanks,
Roland.
jim0266
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At 3200 I was able to fire 6 shots quickly, then the camera paused for a second before being able to fire another shot. Shooting another scene at 3200 I was able to get 5 shots off before a brief pause. Then shots available as the buffer cleared. HTH.
raid
Dad Photographer
I read this part of your review. Thank you, Jim. This is for me good to know.
jim0266
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He and I exchanged emails a week or so ago. He was sending his back for a replacement. I've had no card issues to date. With the rental 262 I was using a Samsung Pro SD card, and using a SanDisk 16GB Extreme in mine. My hunch is his issue was not card related. Tony Rose @ Popflash told me sometimes issues like this can be resolved by reloading the firmware, FWIW...
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rscheffler
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Thanks, sounds the same as the M240...
jim0266
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Hi Roland,
Only options are DNG, JPG fine or DNG+JPG fine. The only JPG settings are for sharpness, saturation and contrast. B&W would have to be done in PP.
ferider
Veteran
Thank you, Jim.
