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GaryLH
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Those two f2.8 zooms have my interest as well as the super fixed length tele. It is toooo bad sigma decided not to support x mount..(recent web info about it).
Gary
Gary
nongfuspring
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I agree about sigma, that 1.8 zoom they have is pretty crazy, some of their other lenses seem really good and very reasonably priced.
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- XF 16-55mm F2.8
- XF 50-140mm F2.8
- XF 18-135mm F3.5-5.6
- Large-diameter wide-angle lens
- Super-telephoto lens (200mm or more?)
So, we can add a new 16-55mm f2.8 to the 16-50mm f3.5-5.6 and 18-55 f2.8-4. It seems that they are pitching upscale. It is the equivalent of the 12-40mm Olympus zoom the MFT crowd is crowing about.
Though it doesn't fit my shooting style, I applaud the XF 50-140mm f2.8 (70-210mm equivalent). At f2.8, it is also upscale.
I guess someone will want the 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 (28-210mm equivalent) zoom. Is it sort of a trophy zoom for the new shooter?
All of these lenses are unusable on the XPro1, which lends credence to the SLR style mirrorless body rumor.
- XF 50-140mm F2.8
- XF 18-135mm F3.5-5.6
- Large-diameter wide-angle lens
- Super-telephoto lens (200mm or more?)
So, we can add a new 16-55mm f2.8 to the 16-50mm f3.5-5.6 and 18-55 f2.8-4. It seems that they are pitching upscale. It is the equivalent of the 12-40mm Olympus zoom the MFT crowd is crowing about.
Though it doesn't fit my shooting style, I applaud the XF 50-140mm f2.8 (70-210mm equivalent). At f2.8, it is also upscale.
I guess someone will want the 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 (28-210mm equivalent) zoom. Is it sort of a trophy zoom for the new shooter?
All of these lenses are unusable on the XPro1, which lends credence to the SLR style mirrorless body rumor.
gavinlg
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Large diameter wide angle - 16mm f1.4? Or around there?
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wouldn't that be lovely!
GaryLH
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Why do u think this? I don't why they won't work. The evf may not be as good as an xe2. The ovf should work, the framing may be pretty small even in mag mode. So evf is probably the way to go for anything over 200 anyway.
Gary
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I should have said the OVF of the XPro1.
Great, more zooooooms. 
kshapero
South Florida Man
Hope they are not too large in size.
Avotius
Some guy
Watch your GAS pressure!
willie_901
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The only thing I'm interested in the Roadmap is the unannouced next OVF/EVF interchangeable lens body.
Once the 56/1.2 is in my hands, I'm not thinking about more lenses.
A compact 23/2.8 would be nice. I recently started using the 27/2.8 and it is a great everyday lens for me. I am used to working with this angle-of-view.
For me 16mm is not that attractive. My projects either require the 14 or 18 mm XF lenses.
I don't enjoy zooms even though they are often a perfectly rational option.
Right now I plan to spend my 2014 lens budget at my local printing lab.
Once the 56/1.2 is in my hands, I'm not thinking about more lenses.
A compact 23/2.8 would be nice. I recently started using the 27/2.8 and it is a great everyday lens for me. I am used to working with this angle-of-view.
For me 16mm is not that attractive. My projects either require the 14 or 18 mm XF lenses.
I don't enjoy zooms even though they are often a perfectly rational option.
Right now I plan to spend my 2014 lens budget at my local printing lab.
agoglanian
Reconnected.
Big zooms are the wrong direction for this system. I'm glad that they have the primes that they do, because in my mind having some big zoom on a rangefinder-esque body is just impractical. If they come out with an SLR style body, then fine, but it still won't interest me. I'm content with the lenses I have.
GaryLH
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By big zooms are u saying f2.8 zooms or tele zooms?
To me, it appears that they are going to now start filling in on their secondary priority prime lenses and work on their pro level zooms. f2.8 zoom are normally aimed at the pros or those amateurs who think they want it.
It was only less then two months ago we learned that Fuji brought in a bunch of pros for their opinion. This updated roadmap may just be the first inkling of what Fuji has decided to do w/ their opinions.
For me, I don't need the f2.8.. I would be just as happy for a constant f4. If I can help it, I would rather not use a zoom which is past f4.
Gary
To me, it appears that they are going to now start filling in on their secondary priority prime lenses and work on their pro level zooms. f2.8 zoom are normally aimed at the pros or those amateurs who think they want it.
It was only less then two months ago we learned that Fuji brought in a bunch of pros for their opinion. This updated roadmap may just be the first inkling of what Fuji has decided to do w/ their opinions.
For me, I don't need the f2.8.. I would be just as happy for a constant f4. If I can help it, I would rather not use a zoom which is past f4.
Gary
willie_901
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Fixed aperture f 2.8 zoom lenses for APS-C sensors require a certain amount of glass surface area. These lenses have to be wider and heavier compared to a similar lens housing with less glass surface area.
APS-C sensors require a larger aperture to deliver equivalent performance to 24 X 36 mm sensor.
For instance the Nikkor 16-35/4 G lens covers a 24X 36 mm sensor well as does the Tokina 11-16/2.8 lens for an APS-C sensor. Both of these lenses are large. Both have equivalent angles of view (which affords similar perspectives or "looks") and both would deliver the same amount of light (assuming they have the same transmission factor).
The Nikkor weighs ~ 24 oz (678g), and is ~4.9" long with a 3.3" diameter (125 & 82.5 mm ). The Tokina is ~19 oz/548g, and ~3.5 long by 3.3" diameter (89.43 x 84.15mm).
A more compact zoom would be slower. How many people would buy a f 4 APS-C zoom and tolerate an equivalent f 5.6 minimum aperture (unless Leica made the camera, then the lack of DOF control would automatically be considered a virtue)? Fuji owners and reviewers would be outraged. The number of "what was Fuji thinking" posts and articles would be uncountable.
The new zooms will be large.
APS-C sensors require a larger aperture to deliver equivalent performance to 24 X 36 mm sensor.
For instance the Nikkor 16-35/4 G lens covers a 24X 36 mm sensor well as does the Tokina 11-16/2.8 lens for an APS-C sensor. Both of these lenses are large. Both have equivalent angles of view (which affords similar perspectives or "looks") and both would deliver the same amount of light (assuming they have the same transmission factor).
The Nikkor weighs ~ 24 oz (678g), and is ~4.9" long with a 3.3" diameter (125 & 82.5 mm ). The Tokina is ~19 oz/548g, and ~3.5 long by 3.3" diameter (89.43 x 84.15mm).
A more compact zoom would be slower. How many people would buy a f 4 APS-C zoom and tolerate an equivalent f 5.6 minimum aperture (unless Leica made the camera, then the lack of DOF control would automatically be considered a virtue)? Fuji owners and reviewers would be outraged. The number of "what was Fuji thinking" posts and articles would be uncountable.
The new zooms will be large.
GaryLH
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True. But as I said the f2.8 zooms are targeted to pro market. They already have variable f-stop zooms for the amateur market in both xf and xc grade.
I was remarking that I would be happier w/ something in between since the f4 zooms tend to be a bit lighter then the f2.8 ones.
Gary
I was remarking that I would be happier w/ something in between since the f4 zooms tend to be a bit lighter then the f2.8 ones.
Gary
boomguy57
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Increased focus on zoom lenses would seem to be the death of the OVF. Too bad, really. That's the only thing I really enjoyed about the X100 I owned for over 2 years. That's how they separated themselves in a crowded ILC mirror less market, IMO. Competing with inferior EVFs and smaller sensors with Sony's better EVFs and larger sensors will be tough.
Fuji, after much early hype, seem to have lost their way. They've introduced a boatload of mirror less models and zoom lenses.
Fuji, after much early hype, seem to have lost their way. They've introduced a boatload of mirror less models and zoom lenses.
aizan
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fuji's lens system just keeps getting better and better. i bet wedding photogs will love the 16-55/2.8 on the x-pro1.
in the US market, the pseudo-slr will probably sell better than the x-pro1. it's only natural to release f2.8 zooms with such a camera.
in the US market, the pseudo-slr will probably sell better than the x-pro1. it's only natural to release f2.8 zooms with such a camera.
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lots of gloomy gus's here…fuji expands it's line up and folks are upset?
we now have a lower end line, a regular line and zooms…and more zooms and primes on the way.
out of the 5 lenses on the new roadmap, 2 are primes! a fast wide, just what we were talking about last week!! and a longer prime, a lens that so many have been begging for.
seems impossible to please some folks...
we now have a lower end line, a regular line and zooms…and more zooms and primes on the way.
out of the 5 lenses on the new roadmap, 2 are primes! a fast wide, just what we were talking about last week!! and a longer prime, a lens that so many have been begging for.
seems impossible to please some folks...
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Why put that lens on an XPro1? Think how much bigger it will be than the 18-55 f2.8-4. You won't be able to use the OVF and the EVF on the XE2 is better.