News from Kodak Alaris and Fujifilm

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Hi,

first a short disclaimer:
This post is only for friendly film shooters who are really interested in the ongoing use of this medium. This post is not for the doom-and-gloom preachers...😀.

1. Kodak Alaris:
https://photobite.uk/in-conversation-with-andy-church-kodak-alaris/
Short summary:
- the film market is growing
- therefore Kodak Alaris is seriously thinking about the reintroduction of further film types in the future.

2. Fujifilm North America:
https://www.instagram.com/fujifilm_profilm/?hl=de
https://www.instagram.com/p/BtzN4z3Bonu/
They are increasing their marketing efforts and will join the WPPI in Las Vegas.
Quote:
"We'll be there with a ton of #film fun including on-site film developing, scanning & printing, a free photo walk with @richardphotolab, a film photography panel discussion with @thefindlab @photovisionprints @richardphotolab & special guest @josevilla as well as a talented lineup of #filmphotographer speakers including @danrubin, @erichmcvey & @nickcarver. See you in Vegas!"

Have fun, shoot film 🙂.

Cheers, Jan
 
Thanks Jan. It would be nice if they get around to re-releasing Plus-X (personally I'd rather Panatomic-X but I think that's too small a market, having in the meanwhile become used to FP4+ and APX100 as Plus-X replacements).
 
I shoot both film and digital. These are good news, nice to know. Thanks for posting.
robert
PS: I like the photo of the Harrow Kodak factory!
 
Thanks for the info. Very interesting, but not surprising 🙂.
Concerning possible Kodak films coming back: I think it makes sense to look at which films lasted longer in the programme than others = which were discontinued as the last, which have had demand for a longer time than others. And then we will find.......Kodak BW 400 CN, the chromogenic film.
As lots of the new demand is coming from young beginners, such a film with its easy handling, extreme latitude and easy processing (C41, every minilab can process it) could make sense in the future market.
And Plus-X may follow after that........
Good to see Fujifilms increased activities, too. We need both color film producers in the market!
 
Fujifilm's new marketing effort is a good step. Now if they would just stop discontinuing films. Not sure what films Kodak is considering reviving. Haven't heard much about the new Ektachrome since its roll out. Has everyone now shot their one roll out of curiosity and gone back to whatever they were shooting before?
 
ptpdprinter said:
..Haven't heard much about the new Ektachrome since it's roll out. Has everyone now shot their one roll out of curiosity and gone back to whatever they were shooting before?
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There is a Ektachrome thread in the film sub-forum. Some nice images there.

I haven't shot any yet, mainly because its mid-winter in northern Michigan, with the primary color being white (snow). I'll wait until spring, and the return of color, before trying some.

Jim B.
 
ptpdprinter said:
Fujifilm's new marketing effort is a good step. Now if they would just stop discontinuing films.
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They have already done that: At photokina they made an official statement in that regard. They will continue with the current film programme.

ptpdprinter said:
Not sure what films Kodak is considering reviving. Haven't heard much about the new Ektachrome since it's roll out. Has everyone now shot their one roll out of curiosity and gone back to whatever they were shooting before?
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I've shot lots of the new Ektachrome. Very good film with improved neutral color rendition (the Kodak typical cyan cast in the blues - especially in the sky - is completely gone).
But real ISO sensivity is only 80/20°. Sharpness and resolution are lower compared to Provia 100F. Provia remains the benchmark, the best neutral tone color reversal film.
 
E.M said:
I am mainly a color shooter , so Kodachrome would make very happy !
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Kodachrome will never come back (that was officially explained by Kodak). It makes no sense, because
- E6 films have surpassed Kodachrome in all technological aspects (resolution, fineness of grain, sharpness, color rendition, color stability under light) already in the 90ies
- E6 can easily be developed - both in big and small labs and at home
- Kodachrome needs a complete new processing infrastructure: it not only need all the investing in the new film, but also in a new processing infrastructure - much much too expensive
- a new Kodachrome and processing would be so expensive that nobody would use it.

I've used Kodachrome 64 in the past. It was good in the 80ies, but compared with current Provia 100F Provia is a league of its own, much much better and less expensive.
I don't miss K64. I enjoy the progress film technology has made with E6.
 
Skiff said:
Kodachrome will never come back (that was officially explained by Kodak). It makes no sense, because
- E6 films have surpassed Kodachrome in all technological aspects (resolution, fineness of grain, sharpness, color rendition, color stability under light) already in the 90ies
- E6 can easily be developed - both in big and small labs and at home
- Kodachrome needs a complete new processing infrastructure: it not only need all the investing in the new film, but also in a new processing infrastructure - much much too expensive
- a new Kodachrome and processing would be so expensive that nobody would use it.

I've used Kodachrome 64 in the past. It was good in the 80ies, but compared with current Provia 100F Provia is a league of its own, much much better and less expensive.
I don't miss K64. I enjoy the progress film technology has made with E6.
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I would add that Kodachrome was the first successful commercial color film ever, and Kodak bent over backwards to make it work, make it beautiful, and to be the first. The process is very complicated and expensive to run. Once Kodak developed it, they kept on working on color films and came up with much less cumbersome chemistry. Kodachrome was beautiful, but since it was the first realization of a monumental effort to produce color film, it turned out to be much more complex then later products. Since the infrastructure was in place, they kept it going, but once shutdown, it has became dead for all practical purposes. Now that I said that, Kodak will probably announce restarting Kodachrome tomorrow...
 
I am grateful for Provia 100, as I am for the new Ektachrome 100. Makes it possible to shoot wonderful slides. And it's a bit pointless to lament the passing of Kodachrome which, I agree, will never come back. And yet so hard not too. There's nothing as nice as Kodachrome 200. Glad I was lucky to have shot some.

.
 
css9450 said:
Plus-X or Verichrome Pan, but honestly I don't remember how those differed from each other.
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Verichrome Pan had an emulsion coating was thicker than most of today's films. The emulsion contained mix grain sizes to provide for a wide exposure latitude - which was needed when using an old 620 or 120 roll film box camera, with a single speed shutter.

The bottom line with Verichrome Pan - one could achieve some really decent tonality when using a medium format camera with a decent lens and shutter.

Plus-X is very similar - essentially another an emulsion with mixed grain sizes. Hence, ............
 
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