bwcolor
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porktaco
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goddammit. i don't want to spend $1k on a 35mm equiv.
dexdog
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Those images look very good. The only Sony lens that I have ever used is the 18-55 that came with my NEX 5, and I am not that impressed with its performance. That 24mm Zeiss looks nice, though.
I'd rather use a M Zeiss w/ adapter than this zeiss. It's just too big.
bwcolor
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I just downsized and adjusted the biker in air and it certainly looks good to me. Dpreview crowd are all negative, which I don't get. The Zeiss looks much better than the kit lens samples. Sony needs better lenses.
I won't use this Zeiss lens, but these are the first samples with a good lens.
I won't use this Zeiss lens, but these are the first samples with a good lens.
j j
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It's what the Dpreview crowd do best.
gavinlg
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I'm gonna say it... I don't think the size of the zeiss is worth it - which is supposed to be a compact system. There's not really anything in those samples which shows it's a good lens to me - I need to see some medium distance shots wide open with a model.
The nex 7 looks nice, though the IQ doesn't look any better than current DSLRs really...
The nex 7 looks nice, though the IQ doesn't look any better than current DSLRs really...
segedi
RFicianado
Will be mounting the 25mm ZM via adapter if I end up getting a NEX. But the E lens seems to perform pretty well. Would like to see how its AF performs.
froyd
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For many people it won't need to. The reduced form factor at parity of IQ might be enough.
Not me though... still holding out for an M9 at $900. I expect they'll be plentiful in 2022, though finding fresh batteries might be an issue.
bwcolor
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Agreed, form factor with legacy lenses is what I'm looking for, but there is another form factor that isn't working in favor of the NEX-7.
My 3.6TB volume is just about full. I shoot and store RAW. Is the NEX-7 RAW file really worth saving? I suspect not. I'm not wanting to deal with such large image files in Aperture. It is really the storage space that has me concerned. So, I need to decide if it is worth the extra effort to downsize all image and store as TIFF. After all, there is also the GXR system where none of this is required. How much better is the NEX-7 image for most of what I shoot? The GXR has both form factor and file size going for it.
My 3.6TB volume is just about full. I shoot and store RAW. Is the NEX-7 RAW file really worth saving? I suspect not. I'm not wanting to deal with such large image files in Aperture. It is really the storage space that has me concerned. So, I need to decide if it is worth the extra effort to downsize all image and store as TIFF. After all, there is also the GXR system where none of this is required. How much better is the NEX-7 image for most of what I shoot? The GXR has both form factor and file size going for it.
Hard drives are dirt cheap, so I'm not sure why you are stressing this aspect.
douglasf13
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It's tough to design a small, f1.8 24mm lens that performs well at the edges. Really, the only equivalent smaller option is the ZM 25/2.8, but it is a stop and a half slower, and it is still only about 5-10mm shorter with the adapter attached.
porktaco
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holy crap DPR is an NEX whinefest.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1042&thread=37648137
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1042&thread=37648137
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
You are comparing products from a unique and innovative *camera* manufacturer versus an electronic behemoth who pretends to be a camera manufacturer.... not fair.
douglasf13
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The 4 biggest things that I see that the NEX-7 has going for it, over the GXR M module, are:
1) Tilt up screen (this would have been a deal breaker for me, if the NEX-7 didn't have this.)
2) Much higher quality EVF (and it is built-in on the NEX, rather than a large appendage.)
3) Ability to use Hawks helicoid adapter, which allows SLR-like close focus with M lenses.
4) Ability to use just about any other type of lens out there.
Buying more hardware space is just a fact of life, and, honestly, I'm pretty excited for the NEX-7 to get closer to my A900 in resolution. At my print size, it isn't hugely noticeable, but there is a difference.
bwcolor
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There is the hard drive and two other backup drives. So, I want to buy extra drives only if the image quality makes a difference in my end product, which these days is mostly Blurb books and 12"x18" hanging on my wall.
Right now, the better EVF and the ability to use my Contax G and Zeiss C/Y lenses in addition to Leica M has me interested in the Sony. Not sure that the 24MPix is a plus.
porktaco
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this. i could actually go without the tiltup screen. the built-in EVF is the dealbreaker for me
gavinlg
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I know most of you guys are thinking about using it with M lenses, but with the native sony lenses it really doesn't look any smaller than a DSLR.
