Nikon 8000ED with Vuescan is pathetic.

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I hate Vuescan, I so miss the Nikon software for my 8000ED it was so easy to operate. My latest computer will not take the Nikon software so I got vuescan.
When I scan a 6x9 negative it never gets the last part, even when I put it on MAXIMUM. When I scan the second negative it scans the last third of the first negative and two thirds of the second one.
Scanning 6x6 it scans the first and half of the second. Then when trying to scan the second, it scans half of the first image and half of the second.
I am sick of making changes as nothing seems to alter it. I end up having to cut the negatives up and do singles, when putting them in my enlarger for wet printing, it’s difficult to handle them correctly.
The Nikon software could detect the spaces between the negatives but not Vuescan.
Does anybody else have have this problem ????
 
Knock on wood my 8000ED still functions.

With regards to scanning 6x9 negatives, I can only do one a time. To do the second exposure I need to remove the film from the glass negative holder and reverse the film so that the next exposure goes into the scanner in the frame number one position.

Be sure to check that under the Crop icon that you have selected the Crop Size option to be "Manual".

That's as close as I can get to be of any help at all with this wonderful beast.
 
I've been using VueScan since 1999-2000 or so, exclusively, with all my scanners. It does a much better job than any of the other scanning apps I've found, albeit that it does take some time to learn and use. The control interface is often not the clearest and its behavior with different scanners is sometimes a bit different from expected.

The VS control interface has improved immensely since the first version that long eon ago, but it is still complex and targets people who are willing to learn it. It provides tremendous and explicit control of the scanning operation, at the expense of not much automation. VueScan worked brilliantly with my Nikon Super Coolscan 9000 ED while I had it, and still does with my Nikon CoolScan V ED. Nikon dropped support for macOS prior to 2010 with their scanning software, and the Minolta scanning software when I had Minolta scanners back at the beginning was just plain junk. The purchase of VueScan in its pro version also means "pay once, upgrades forever", which none of the other apps provide, and it's been 100% compatible with every version of macOS from 1999 on, though a vast number of updates and improvements. I cannot knock it one bit.

I strongly recommend obtaining a copy of The VueScan Bible: Everything You Need to Know for Perfect Scanning, available from Amazon in both print and Kindle versions. I keep the Kindle version available on both my desktop and tablet, and refer to it (and the user help on the VueScan website) whenever I run into something I haven't dealt with before.

Keep at it and soon you'll be an expert. :)

The alternative is something like LaserSoft's Silverfast AI, which is about $300.00, offers usually only paid upgrades, and is typically locked to a specific scanner make and model. It does offer more automation.

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You might check all the menu options and turn off anything labeled "multi."

Also, make certain you are seeing all of the menu options. When in "pro" mode the menu options are many, and some may be hidden until you use the up/down sliders on the side of the menu windows.
 
jmpgino said:
I hate Vuescan, I so miss the Nikon software for my 8000ED it was so easy to operate. My latest computer will not take the Nikon software so I got vuescan.
When I scan a 6x9 negative it never gets the last part, even when I put it on MAXIMUM. When I scan the second negative it scans the last third of the first negative and two thirds of the second one.
Scanning 6x6 it scans the first and half of the second. Then when trying to scan the second, it scans half of the first image and half of the second.
I am sick of making changes as nothing seems to alter it. I end up having to cut the negatives up and do singles, when putting them in my enlarger for wet printing, it’s difficult to handle them correctly.
The Nikon software could detect the spaces between the negatives but not Vuescan.
Does anybody else have have this problem ????
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You need to set your frame offset and frame spacing correctly. The Nikon software finds the start of an image for you, vuescan doesn't.

The frame offset is basically how many MM from the front of the holder your image starts at and the frame spacing is the spacing between negatives. Set those properly and you should find it does a better job of getting your negatives. There is a hardware limit in the scanner of about 9cm front to back. So on a 6x9 negative if you don't start at the correct place you won't ever get the whole negative.

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Well I have just ordered the hardback book of the Vuescan Bible. Thanks for the tip as I had not known of it.
I have the lifetime professional deal and probably need to see if there are any updates.
I use it for black and white negatives to see if they are worth printing wet, it’s invaluable for that.
Thanks again but it is rather pathetic how it operates, it’s also pathetic how Nikon does not care for its products in the long term with the customers.
 
I've used both the Nikon software and Vuescan and gotten decent results from both. Right now I am using the Nikon software as there are ways of using it with Windows 10 64bit despite it technically being unsupported. There is a whole Facebook group dedicated to running NikonScan. I run Windows on my Macs. MacOS is nightmare when it comes to compatibility.
 
jmpgino said:
Well I have just ordered the hardback book of the Vuescan Bible. Thanks for the tip as I had not known of it.
I have the lifetime professional deal and probably need to see if there are any updates.
I use it for black and white negatives to see if they are worth printing wet, it’s invaluable for that.
Thanks again but it is rather pathetic how it operates, it’s also pathetic how Nikon does not care for its products in the long term with the customers.
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The ship carrying Nikon support for their scanner hardware and software sailed into the Uttermost West more than a decade ago. I don't think complaining about it now is of much use other than to release one's frustration. The fact that Ed Hamrick continues to support and develop VueScan to support these wonderful old scanners is nothing short of heroism.

I've long since moved to a copy camera capture methodology for scanning, and only pull out the Nikon Coolscan V for the occasional full roll of 35mm film scanning (to keep it working). With a high resolution digital camera and a good macro/copy setup, I get better results in 1/10 the time. I can't get the ultimate resolution of the Super CoolScan 9000ED on 6x9 in a single capture, but it's rare that I need that, and I can get it (and better) by capturing in sections and stitching the results—which actually takes less time. That's why I sold my 9000.

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The real issue of this constant insertion, time after time to get one decent scan, is that I am wearing the bloody scanner out. It’s only producing about a quarter of its productivity and shortening its lifetime !!!!!
 
Scan with D800e. Superb and fast. I use for monochrome and color neg ( use base color for WB).

Assume newer Nikons do better. But the e outdoes my KM5400 for which my software was great, but no longer works.
 
I am not a lover of electronic cameras, I have one Nikon but use it only for clicks and when the image is not worth spending money on or worth a wall image. Hasselblad, Rolleiflex, Leica and folding cameras are my crafting tools.
 
You don't have to "love an electronic camera" ... You buy one to use as a tool, and use it. That's all. Negative copy work is a technical job that a good digital camera does extremely well; it's just like your Super CoolScan 8000 ED in that regard.

I have little "love" for any camera, they're all tools to me. I love what I can make with them, when they work the way I want. A Hasselblad is a very industrial piece of machinery that does a great job of making both film and digital images. I use mine with both film and digital backs, and enjoy using it tremendously, either way. :)

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I've mentioned several times here how you can make NikonScan work on Windows 7 and 10. I used to send custom drivers to people but that's too much trouble, sorry. Search around and you can figure it out or someone else can pass along drivers if that is your issue. NikonScan is excellent...I never liked VueScan.

Or like mentioned sell the 8000 and buy a decent DSLR, macro lens and maybe a copystand / light box and learn a new skill. You're already using an electronic machine to scan. LS-8000 and 9000 scanners are still worth a lot of money despite likely being near the end of their usable lifespan w/o a lot of work. Actually if you like it that much just get an old laptop running Windows XP w/ a FW port and dedicate it to the scanner.
 
Well the Vuescan Bible book has arrived but I can not find the section that relates to my issue,

FRAME OFFSET and FRAME SPACING.

Could someone please tell me which section and what pages these two points are on.
 
jmpgino said:
Well the Vuescan Bible book has arrived but I can not find the section that relates to my issue,

FRAME OFFSET and FRAME SPACING.

Could someone please tell me which section and what pages these two points are on.
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What they do is listed in the Reference section of The VueScan Bible in the Input Panel section.

How they work is listed on the VueScan help page @
https://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/html/vuesc29.htm#inputframeoffset
https://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/html/vuesc29.htm#inputframespacing

You can get to all the various help articles on the VueScan website via the Help menu in VueScan.

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