_goodtimez
Well-known
Hi folks,
How much money would you put in a vintage Nikon S3 black + Nikon 50 f1.4 + original hood, considering the body is in decent condtion with minimal brassing, the lens has a micro scratch on the rear lens element ?
The seller informed me about the scratch on the lens and offers a 7 day return if I don't like the assembly.
How much money would you put in a vintage Nikon S3 black + Nikon 50 f1.4 + original hood, considering the body is in decent condtion with minimal brassing, the lens has a micro scratch on the rear lens element ?
The seller informed me about the scratch on the lens and offers a 7 day return if I don't like the assembly.
_goodtimez
Well-known
Yes it is said to be all original, no repaint. The tempting point is the one week return in writing. I have look here and around but found no substitutes.
James24
Well-known
If you want a black S3, consider the S3 2002, which seems to go for around £1500 or perhaps just a bit more, and it should come with an excellent reissue 50/1.4 which is worth around half that money. Not that easy to find but if you keep looking, they show up.
James24
Well-known
Beaten to the post by Fred. 
_goodtimez
Well-known
Thanks guys. The day I get mine I will post pics on the present thread. I would appreciate if you could give me a clue.
1 week is my return policy in writen and the condition agreed was that if I did not like the camera I will return it for a full refund.
1 week is my return policy in writen and the condition agreed was that if I did not like the camera I will return it for a full refund.
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
6320243
6320243
6320243 looks pretty good:
Although missing it's original lens, it's a confirmed body in NHS data list.
I pulled a google translate page on the URL and here is the results:
http://translate.google.com/transla...e9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k144599308
6320243 seems to be touched up or repainted!
Let records show the last one that sold, was at auction in Europe, which command higher prices,it also included an all black lens which is even harder to find than the original "Olympic", 6321260 was also a confirmed S3 "Olympic" by NHS.... Hammer price was 3600 euros.
Link here:
http://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?id=232055&acat=232055&_ssl=off
6320243
6320243 looks pretty good:
Although missing it's original lens, it's a confirmed body in NHS data list.
I pulled a google translate page on the URL and here is the results:
http://translate.google.com/transla...e9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k144599308
6320243 seems to be touched up or repainted!
Let records show the last one that sold, was at auction in Europe, which command higher prices,it also included an all black lens which is even harder to find than the original "Olympic", 6321260 was also a confirmed S3 "Olympic" by NHS.... Hammer price was 3600 euros.
Link here:
http://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?id=232055&acat=232055&_ssl=off
enasniearth
Well-known
since i was not able to read the text , the listing i did not understand .
$1300 is quite the price , the olympic camera is the lowest value of the original black rf nikons . still this is quite low .
i guess this explains the low prices on reissue cameras in japan .
$4000 with lens for sp2005 kit is a big suprise .
you are blessed in being in an area where selection and price are great .
i have quite a bit more in my s3 than this however , since purchased awhile ago , i paid current price then and and still enjoy its use .
al
$1300 is quite the price , the olympic camera is the lowest value of the original black rf nikons . still this is quite low .
i guess this explains the low prices on reissue cameras in japan .
$4000 with lens for sp2005 kit is a big suprise .
you are blessed in being in an area where selection and price are great .
i have quite a bit more in my s3 than this however , since purchased awhile ago , i paid current price then and and still enjoy its use .
al
BillBingham2
Registered User
The S3 is a wonderful camera. I'd get an older one with a titanium shutter. It noisier than the cloth they say but should for many years.
You can save a great deal and just go with an S2 if all you are going to shoot are 50s and 24s/28s.
B2
You can save a great deal and just go with an S2 if all you are going to shoot are 50s and 24s/28s.
B2
_goodtimez
Well-known
Just got mine today. My wife made quick pics to show it up. What do you think ??
I have one authentification already however your comments are welcome.
NIKON S3 by Wegothim, on Flickr
NIKON S3 by Wegothim, on Flickr
NIKON S3 by Wegothim, on Flickr
NIKON S3 by Wegothim, on Flickr
NIKON S3 by Wegothim, on Flickr
I have one authentification already however your comments are welcome.
NIKON S3 by Wegothim, on Flickr
NIKON S3 by Wegothim, on Flickr
NIKON S3 by Wegothim, on Flickr
NIKON S3 by Wegothim, on Flickr
NIKON S3 by Wegothim, on Flickr
VinceC
Veteran
That's a "standard" lens, not the Olympic. Excellent performer for the era but not as "modern" as the Olympic, which holds its own against modern Leitz glass.
Highway 61
Revisited
As written in the other thread where you posted a picture of it, I find strange to see a thin concentric circles (Nikon F style) frame counter cover associated with an early style (short, small, hollow) wind lever.
When Nikon introduced that frame cover style, that was for the late Nikon SP (titanium shutter) and the Nikon S3 Olympic, but the wind lever on these cameras wasn't like that (and had a different ratchett under the top cover).
So there is at least something "wrong" on your camera.
Is the shutter cloth or titanium ?
When Nikon introduced that frame cover style, that was for the late Nikon SP (titanium shutter) and the Nikon S3 Olympic, but the wind lever on these cameras wasn't like that (and had a different ratchett under the top cover).
So there is at least something "wrong" on your camera.
Is the shutter cloth or titanium ?
_goodtimez
Well-known
It's cloth. Thanks
Highway 61
Revisited
So it's not an Olympic, and the frame counter cover is definitely not matching the rest of the camera...
_goodtimez
Well-known
I knew it was not an Olympic. I just need to know if the paint is original since I have a 7 day return option.
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
This number indicates the "Olympic" batch, the Olympic batch started from 632xxxx
Your camera is 6321282
There are no regular S3 cameras past the number 6313xxx
This is definitely an "Olympic" camera, are you sure the shutter is cloth? Can you show a picture of it?
I checked the serial number and 6321282 is a confirmed "Olympic" black body according to Nikon Historical Society's Data-base.
Kiu
Your camera is 6321282
There are no regular S3 cameras past the number 6313xxx
This is definitely an "Olympic" camera, are you sure the shutter is cloth? Can you show a picture of it?
I checked the serial number and 6321282 is a confirmed "Olympic" black body according to Nikon Historical Society's Data-base.
Kiu
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
I agree that a replacement top could be installed on another black camera.
But this camera does have other "Olympic" features.
The self timer, frame counter cover,wind lever and bigger rewind base are all Nikon F parts, which is what we have seen on these "Olympic" cameras.
I hope Mr. goodtimes can show us a picture of the bottom and the shutter curtains.
I bet the curtains are titanium...
In addition to 6321282, Bob Rotoloni has 6321283 and 6321284 recorded in NHS-113 journal.
Kiu
But this camera does have other "Olympic" features.
The self timer, frame counter cover,wind lever and bigger rewind base are all Nikon F parts, which is what we have seen on these "Olympic" cameras.
I hope Mr. goodtimes can show us a picture of the bottom and the shutter curtains.
I bet the curtains are titanium...
In addition to 6321282, Bob Rotoloni has 6321283 and 6321284 recorded in NHS-113 journal.
Kiu
35mmdelux
Veni, vidi, vici
Nice rig in exceptional cond for its age. For us novices, whats under the black paint? Brass, aluminum, zinc?
Highway 61
Revisited
Well, I do still think that NO, the wind lever is NOT a Nikon F style one, this is clearly the same as on the Nikon S2 and the first series of Nikon SP and S3, it's shorter and smaller (and hollow, but this last point is not fully relevant because some Nikon F style wind levers were hollow as well).
And as stated before, this lever is not only different in look from the Nikon F style one, it also matches a different ratchett under the camera top cover.
There is a thread in this forum where "Goliathus" clearly shows that when you want to install a Nikon F style wind lever on an early Nikon SP or S3, you also have to remove the top cover and install a wind ratchett coming from a donor Nikon F, unless you cannot benefit of the 30° click-stop resting position of the wind lever.
And you cannot install a wind lever like the one pictured here on a camera fitted with a Nikon F style ratchett.
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
I went and checked a few more "Olympic" cameras, here is some examples thanks to Westlicht Auction:
Lets compare to the camera in question:
As you can see, highway61 is correct, the camera you showed us seems to have a different wind lever.
Now, if the shutter curtains are cloth, that means either those are replacements or the camera is not an "Olympic"!
Kiu
Lets compare to the camera in question:
As you can see, highway61 is correct, the camera you showed us seems to have a different wind lever.
Now, if the shutter curtains are cloth, that means either those are replacements or the camera is not an "Olympic"!
Kiu
enasniearth
Well-known
black s3
black s3
the top plate and black controls are definately from an olympic s3 type .
the lever is earlier , however it still has the trim washer under the black cover .
earlier style levers did not have this washer . so it is later than one might think .
with this trim washer i think it is the f type hub .
the self timer is earlier style and the cloth curtains indicate normal s3 not olympic .
as has been stated olympic s3 were made from left over parts . bob states in his book all have titanium shutters . unlikely any have cloth shutters .
the top plate is touched up black paint ( normal for such an old nikon )
the front plate looks too clean to match the wear on the top plate . however color and sheen seem to match .
still a nice looking camera .
looking at the front plate again the letters nikon engraved are wider than earlier s3 i have seen - my late titanium shutter sp has an engraveing that is also wide . it is not the size of the letter but the width of the lines . the sp was made after 1960 .
so the s3 front plate looks late and may match the top plate and back .
black s3
the top plate and black controls are definately from an olympic s3 type .
the lever is earlier , however it still has the trim washer under the black cover .
earlier style levers did not have this washer . so it is later than one might think .
with this trim washer i think it is the f type hub .
the self timer is earlier style and the cloth curtains indicate normal s3 not olympic .
as has been stated olympic s3 were made from left over parts . bob states in his book all have titanium shutters . unlikely any have cloth shutters .
the top plate is touched up black paint ( normal for such an old nikon )
the front plate looks too clean to match the wear on the top plate . however color and sheen seem to match .
still a nice looking camera .
looking at the front plate again the letters nikon engraved are wider than earlier s3 i have seen - my late titanium shutter sp has an engraveing that is also wide . it is not the size of the letter but the width of the lines . the sp was made after 1960 .
so the s3 front plate looks late and may match the top plate and back .