"...not as good as my father and the old Leica"

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Given a few of the discussions we've had here recently, I thought this article kind of fit right in. Interesting take, well-written, and a bit of a surprise ending, I thought.

Anyway...thought you might like it.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

http://www.villagesoup.com/guestcolumns/story.cfm?storyID=73181

Better ... or is it the equipment?
By Sarason Liebler

LIBERTY (June 1): My father, working with a German Leica camera acquired from a merchant seaman just after World War II, took wonderful photographs. The small camera, with a perfect lens, had a range finder but no light meter.
When he prepared to take a picture he used a hand-held light meter, mentally averaged the readings, made his aperture and speed settings accordingly, and waited for the moment. If a cloud came by he started over again. Those cameras had no motor drive. Winding was done with a knob and took some time. You either got your shot or you didn't.

Using his brains and with a great ability to concentrate, he got a lot of good ones. I was quite interested in taking pictures as he did, and my first big-time effort was with a small Agfa-Gavert 35 mm, also lacking a light meter. I got some good shots but not like my father. In time I moved up to a Nikkomat, a Japanese SLR (single lens reflex) with an integrated light meter. You set speed or aperture, working to move a needle into the center of a small range on the side of the eyepiece view screen. It was better, but still not as good as my father and the old Leica.

My father, in his later years, was given a more advanced Nikomat EL as a gift. It permitted automatic setting of speed or aperture but still lacked a motor drive. He rarely used it. I have been using that camera since he died, more than 15 years. Results, again, better, but not as good as my father.

Now, as a milestone birthday approaches for me, as a gift from my entire family, I was given a top-of-the-line digital SLR digital camera. It comes preset from the factory and lets you start shooting as soon as you get the battery charged and insert the memory card. To properly set my own specifications will require at least two years of advanced training at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. But out of the box, on automatic, I finally outdid my father and his old Leica.

Skiers now have better materials and ski faster. Pole-vaulters passed the old record marks, as if they were accomplished by Pygmies, as soon as the poles were switched from bamboo to fiberglass, and then to carbon fiber.

Fly fisherman wrestle in large fish with rods of exotic graphite composites that let them stress the fish far more than one could with the old, impossibly fine, hand-engineered bamboo rods with tippets no thicker than a No. 2 pencil lead.

My banging out 12 electronic, digital exposures, without having to check speed or light lets me get the perfect picture with far more ease and less skill than my father had. But I never have displayed the concentration capabilities of my father, or his aesthetic eye as he framed a shot. With the optics integrated with the remarkable electronics, I can fake it.

Barry Bonds recently tied Babe Ruth's record of 714 home runs over his career, and unless whacked by a bus he will surpass the Babe's total.

Many things of course are not comparable here either. Balls have been juiced since the Babe, and it appears that so was Bonds. The Babe on the other hand fueled himself with booze and good times and was just as physically broken down at the end of his career as Bonds is now, as his career comes to an end. Still, in a sense, the white Ruth and the black Bond are related as father-and-son figures of Major League Baseball. But comparisons do not work so well when there are so many variables.

Athletes of today preened and sculpted by trainers and fueled by all sorts of substances, legal or otherwise, can not be compared with the lesser-trained "amateurs" of the past, or even with the pros of the past, who lived a far different life.

And my "skills" cannot be compared to my father’s, who worked things through in his head with no computer. Did I mention that he also wrote without spell check or anything like Google? But he could take notes in shorthand and type with such speed and fury that the machine would literally leap to his command.

With the tools of the present we may be able to do more than those of the past.

But better? Uh-uh.
 
A nicely written story, Bill. I enjoyed reading it even though I don't agree with the writer on some points. He concludes that he can "shotgun" 12 shots and do better than his father who would likely take only one or two images. IOW, he's counting on luck rather than skill and just as a shotgun pattern has holes in it that will cause a miss, the best images may lie between the ones he actually got.

But, if he's happy then so am I. 🙂

Walker
 
Thanks, Bill. As a great-grandfather who has used a Leica LTM for over 50 years, I can only hope that my kids and grandkids, with their superdigital equipment, will feel the same way when I am gone.

Jim N.
 
Thank you for posting that Bill. I'm planning on leaving an RF cam each to my kids when I pass on so that they can think about picture taking too.

 
its the photographer

its the photographer

When I was deeply involved in cycling and some of us were "gear heads" we used to admit that "Its not the gears, its the gam". Meaning of course that you still have to push the pedals around.
I think some people are more gifted at certain things than others. I'm still trying to accomplish with $5,000 of camera gear what my wife does with here P&S. She just has a better eye for composition and light than I do.
I think many of the notables of yesteryear would have done maybe even greater things with modern gear. But I also think some of them would not. It probably depends on what their working method was. Stategizing the shot with hand held meter, hyperfocal distance, etc. can be a great aid in seeing more carefully and deliberately. Some of them may have done worse given a DSLR.
In the end I think the take home point is that no matter what the equipment, one still has to have vision and engage in the process in a thoughtful manner to get good results. I personally think my rangefinder camera frequently helps me do that. But I'll still use the built in meter.
 
Steve B said:
When I was deeply involved in cycling and some of us were "gear heads" we used to admit that "Its not the gears, its the gam". Meaning of course that you still have to push the pedals around.
I think some people are more gifted at certain things than others. I'm still trying to accomplish with $5,000 of camera gear what my wife does with here P&S. She just has a better eye for composition and light than I do.

Man, ain't that the truth. My wife uses just one lens - a macro on a Nikon FM3a. But she only needs one lens. Her eye "sees" in macro, and her pictures are always better than mine, despite the fact that I photograph all the time and study constantly, and she only picks up the camera on vacation and does only what comes naturally.

It is truly all about seeing.
 
Thanks Bill,
Reading that I kept thinking, but some of us still use old skis, and some still use bamboo, and some of us aren't 'juiced'. But then we're not trying to be the "best" at skiing, fly fishing, or baseball. I like building furniture without screws and nails, just joints, but if I had to make a living out of it..........
 
Gah, tell me about it. I see this old thread come back & simply feel sad, missing Bill. This place lost a terrible large amount the day he left.

William
 
Couldn't agree more. Mattocks' posts were one of the main reasons I logged on to RFF. Funny and insightful, and always, a straight-shooter. I never learned why he left, so don't know if he can be enticed back... Anyone?
 
i drifted into this post ... my dad took photos for years - teaching me the basics of a Wallace Heaton exposure guide which read off the combinations for film speeds of ASA 25/50/64 etc ... but he never took a good picture - he just did not have the eye for it - many , many pics of nostalgic stuff , but nothing which captured a moment ...
But it does not matter - the record is there - and , to him , a Praktica was as good as a Nikon - he just could not get quality ... and would not even consider a Leica !
and we did not get on at all , though we kind of reached a truce in later years ...

Me ? - sometimes I find a good pic in my attempts - but then , i am TRYING !


dee
 
Dee

You are never trying, always interesting, and artistic, how is your web business?

HCB took a lots of photos as well.

Noel
 
sircarl said:
Couldn't agree more. Mattocks' posts were one of the main reasons I logged on to RFF. Funny and insightful, and always, a straight-shooter. I never learned why he left, so don't know if he can be enticed back... Anyone?
Bill hasn't posted for about a year, but according to his profile he's been here about two weeks ago. Possibly to update his avatar, which now doesn't feature the gaffer tape over his mouth anymore. Maybe that's a good sign, because Bill has a knack (still insurpassed) for digging up weird stuff on the web. I mean who else would dig this up: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11608

I do occasionally have a look at his blog on www.wigwamjones.com where he's entertaining as always.
 
how the might have, er, what?

how the might have, er, what?

It's funny - my dad has undergone a C-change on this. There are many, many pictures of my sister and me from when we were small. These pictures are very cute, and also very good (though I may be biased 🙄 ). Some will no doubt appear on my wedding day (April next year 😀 !). These were all taken on a Nikkormat FTn (and the family M3 - which he sold before I realised quite what it was :bang: ). Hyperfocal distance, fast shutter speed, lots of film, lots of thought - and luck. And it worked. He always stressed the importance of the basics, understanding what you want to do: that's how you get good results.

Recently my dad's bought a 350D and is praising it to high heaven. He has now discovered that you can shoot pictures until the buffer fills up. "So much easier to take pictures of children", he says, "taking that many pictures, one of them is usually good".

Me? I'm just confused. And still waiting to get my permanent job so I can get my a la carte MP.

Doctor Zero
 
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