lynnb
Veteran
The picture below is part of a series on tracks. For me tracks have emotional associations of childhood: adventure/exploring, mystery, sometimes happy (beach tracks) and sometimes scary (not knowing who or what one will meet).
I like them both, the dark for its mood and the light for its tones. Interested in your thoughts. Don't be bashful - please share your opinion!
Which do you prefer, and why?
If you think either or both of them suck for any reason: please feel welcome to share your reasons - I have a thick skin! Honesty is preferable to tact
Thanks in advance,
Lynn
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I like them both, the dark for its mood and the light for its tones. Interested in your thoughts. Don't be bashful - please share your opinion!
Which do you prefer, and why?
If you think either or both of them suck for any reason: please feel welcome to share your reasons - I have a thick skin! Honesty is preferable to tact
Thanks in advance,
Lynn


by lynnb on flickr
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
The second for me ... more detail in the grasses ... very beautiful! 
I don't think the particular scene suits the high contrast of your first example.
I don't think the particular scene suits the high contrast of your first example.
lynnb
Veteran
thanks Keith, always appreciate your opinion!
Anyone else?
Anyone else?
philipus
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Hi Lynn
I'd be ok with either provided I know what you want to say with it. If mysterious/scary then the second one would not work for me but the first one would do the trick. The second one to me is a bit bland (while technically entirely correct with good detail rendition in the shadows and no blown highlights etc) because I am wondering what it means. Also, because of the low contrast the farthest visible point of the track in the top right corner doesn't stand out as well. I prefer the first one, thus. But the second one could work provided it's given context by what you wish to say with it.
Cheers
philip
I'd be ok with either provided I know what you want to say with it. If mysterious/scary then the second one would not work for me but the first one would do the trick. The second one to me is a bit bland (while technically entirely correct with good detail rendition in the shadows and no blown highlights etc) because I am wondering what it means. Also, because of the low contrast the farthest visible point of the track in the top right corner doesn't stand out as well. I prefer the first one, thus. But the second one could work provided it's given context by what you wish to say with it.
Cheers
philip
daveleo
what?
At the moment, I prefer the drama of the first one.
EDIT: but it really depends on what emotions you are trying to evoke and the intended viewer. Is this a scary pathway in a children's book? Or a pleasant garden path in a magazine?
EDIT: but it really depends on what emotions you are trying to evoke and the intended viewer. Is this a scary pathway in a children's book? Or a pleasant garden path in a magazine?
ruby.monkey
Veteran
I like the contrast between the dark grass and light path in the first photo; I find the second a little too bland for my tastes.
lynnb
Veteran
thanks Philip. At the moment I'm leaning towards the dark one as it reminds me of children's scary fairytale books. But I wasn't sure about the crushed blacks. Maybe I can put some detail in there and still retain the dark mood.
The light one appealed to me with its gentle tones. A different mood altogether.
What I'm not very good at is judging which pictures will have broader appeal. So all thoughts and comments are appreciated. It's quite likely my own preference will change with time of day and mood!
Kind regards,
Lynn
Edit: thanks Dave and Ruby.Monkey. All comments much appreciated!
The light one appealed to me with its gentle tones. A different mood altogether.
What I'm not very good at is judging which pictures will have broader appeal. So all thoughts and comments are appreciated. It's quite likely my own preference will change with time of day and mood!
Kind regards,
Lynn
Edit: thanks Dave and Ruby.Monkey. All comments much appreciated!
c.poulton
Well-known
I personally prefer the lighter version. It shows far more detail in the grass and that works for me with this image.
(Generally I also tend to prefer less contrasty images with greater tonal range)
(Generally I also tend to prefer less contrasty images with greater tonal range)
mfogiel
Veteran
The second picture is more faithful to the idea, that a B&W photographer should take opportunity of the full spectrum of tonal values in the photographs. The first, is more faithful to the idea, that you can represent the world graphically, in pure black and white, like it is the case in the engravings or cut outs. I normally go with the full tonality.
OurManInTangier
An Undesirable
Somewhere inbetween would do it for me Lynn. The path stands out wonderfully in the first one which draws the eye nicely through the scene. However the two large clumps of darkness are a little too overpowering IMO.
The second one retains far more detail which is often a more popular approach with natural subjects but does lack a wee bit of bite, again my opinion and you probably know I'm just a big old drama queen when it comes to my mono pics so take the above with a doctors recommendation of just a pinch of salt
Lift the blacks a touch in the darkest areas of the first image and I think you'll have a great balance of detail and drama. Whether that leaves the image lacking either of the ideas you set out for is something for you to decide.
The second one retains far more detail which is often a more popular approach with natural subjects but does lack a wee bit of bite, again my opinion and you probably know I'm just a big old drama queen when it comes to my mono pics so take the above with a doctors recommendation of just a pinch of salt
Lift the blacks a touch in the darkest areas of the first image and I think you'll have a great balance of detail and drama. Whether that leaves the image lacking either of the ideas you set out for is something for you to decide.
zauhar
Veteran
Number one for me, I think the amount of detail is less critical than giving the clear impression of a path.
Maybe as Simon suggests you might split the difference in the balance.
Randy
Maybe as Simon suggests you might split the difference in the balance.
Randy
valdas
Veteran
I am with those choosing #1 - high contrast creates a certain mystic mood...
Gareth Rees
Established
I like the lighter one with the detail in the grass.
Having said that, both are nice.
Having said that, both are nice.
j j
Well-known
To me the first looks like night and the second like daylight. If it were my photo I would start with the second image and increase the contrast.
StefanJozef
Well-known
I prefer the second version as well. They are both very impressive.
--s
Well-known
I´d go in between and leave just enough differentiation to keep the details in the grass visible. At the same time I´d make the sand as light as possible without loosing detail. Or would that be ... too mediocre?
lawrence
Veteran
Count me in as another 'inbetweener'. I think the subject of this photo is the path, therefore it should be emphasised subtly -- I dislike it when the subject is very obviously dramatised as in the first example. My preference would be to burn in the grass rather than to simply up the contrast throughout.
back alley
IMAGES
i always prefer a darker more contrasty image to a lighter more detailed image.
i think my own black and white images might suffer less popularity because of this but really, i shoot for my own gratification in the long run.
having all the tones and detail showing is like writing a musical score and including all the notes and chords there are…fine to do it but why?
i think my own black and white images might suffer less popularity because of this but really, i shoot for my own gratification in the long run.
having all the tones and detail showing is like writing a musical score and including all the notes and chords there are…fine to do it but why?
barnwulf
Well-known
A wonderful photo, Lynn. I agree fully with Simon's comment about something in between. I like the dark tones but the darker image looks like the darkest shadows are blocked up black. Just a little more shadow detail would be nice I think. - jim
Photo_Smith
Well-known
I prefer the first, that is if you want to emphasise the paths or journey through the grass, it has more drama.
The second is a nice photo of some sharp, grey grass but lacks anything of interest like a focal point the darker image makes the path that point of interest.
Just my opinion-go with what you feel, I felt that after a couple of seconds image no 2 my eye lost interest and wandered over the grass; the first made me look at the patterns and held my eye for longer as well as making a feature of the path.
Regards
Mark Antony
The second is a nice photo of some sharp, grey grass but lacks anything of interest like a focal point the darker image makes the path that point of interest.
Just my opinion-go with what you feel, I felt that after a couple of seconds image no 2 my eye lost interest and wandered over the grass; the first made me look at the patterns and held my eye for longer as well as making a feature of the path.
Regards
Mark Antony
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