Now I understand

[Gabriel M.A.]

Many of us know the "things" that happened at RFF in the past few months, specially in the past month.

I knew something was "off" at RFF. I slowly realized that, RFF...had somehow lost something.

>> http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22415 <<

I won't go into a long ramble as to why I think things happened and who and why. That was beaten down for weeks. We're beyond that now. I am.

So many of the familiar names and heavy contributors have made this less of a home in cyberspace. Sure, many of us are here, but there is family missing.

I miss many of you. Some of you are gone for good, many of you hardly ever show up anymore. I hope that the ones that are still here don't leave.

How much soul can one lose?

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Moderators/Jorge: you may move to where you think is best appropriate.

 

[RML]

Gabriel, console yourself with the thought that nothing stays the same. Old friends go, new friends come. And sometimes we all have to go on and do our own things, leaving others behind wondering why the world is changing. It's called life. We all have to live it.

 

[Fedzilla_Bob]

Dude - some of us are still here. Still posting.

I've made a personal commitment not to bicker online here. I would like to see the forum reinvigorated.

It was a great place when I first arrived over a year ago. Perhaps it will be again.

 

[Rich Silfver]

I'm sorry to say Gabriel, but what's your point especially if you are - as you say - over it?
If I were to move this post somewhere it would be straight to the bin.

 

[ch1]

I went down the link list a bit and didn't see many who were not here today?

 

[NIKON KIU]

I don't let the OT posts bother me!! Or the IDIOTS!! and god knows we have a few(me included)
For those of you that don't get it......WHERE IS BRIAN???
Kiu

 

[ch1]

I don't let the OT posts bother me!! Or the IDIOTS!! and god knows we have a few(me included)
For those of you that don't get it......WHERE IS BRIAN???
Kiu

You and he seem to be good "buds". Have you PM'd/e-mailed him?

 

[JohnM]

This is still a great forum. I agree with Joe in that thread - the core has not changed.

It's never going to be quite the way it was when it was a relatively small site - the heavier traffic means more posts, more information, but perhaps less familiarity.

Still, though, it is a great place to visit.

 

[kaiyen]

I have noticed a change in the dynamic as well, but, as others have said (in many ways relentlessly), things do change. Others will arise here at RFF to be fill various voids. RFF will be what it is, even if what it is changes. It's just a forum.

At the same time, I think that's part of why I am working so hard to get folks in the bay area together. Making those bonds in person kind of avoid the issues online.

I still read RFF first. And I read a lot of photo forums 🙂

allan

 

[ywenz]

why are ppl getting so touchy with how the site changed? It's just a freakin' internet forum after all. As long as I can read and post threads, it's all the same to me. Heck - I just got an email from RFF the other day saying some Ricardo dude tried to PM me, but my inbox has reached it's max limit. Do I get all upset that RFF has established a limit on PMs? Nope. Do I go and clean up my inbox? Nope, I simply don't care..

I didn't even know those oldtimers has left the forum until you link to that thread. Very telling huh?

 

[Ken Ford]

I started at RFF just before the "troubles", and I have noticed a major change in the overall atmosphere here since. I think it may come out of the realization by many members that this site is not a community owned and directed forum, but instead a personally owned venture. Also, people seem more prickly.

RFF had a certain sparkle that has been lost. I hope it comes back some day.

 

[Ken Ford]

Heck - I just got an email from RFF the other day saying some Ricardo dude tried to PM me, but my inbox has reached it's max limit. Do I all upset that RFF has established a limit on PMs? Nope. Do I go and clean up my inbox? Nope, I simply don't care.

ywenz, no disrespect intended - but... huh?

 

[cp_ste.croix]

I just got an email from RFF the other day saying some Ricardo dude tried to PM me, but my inbox has reached it's max limit. Do I all upset that RFF has established a limit on PMs? Nope. Do I go and clean up my inbox? Nope, I simply don't care..

you's a baaaaad man.

 

[BJ Bignell]

Don't worry, I'm still here! 😀



What's that? It's not about me? <sob>

 

[StuartR]

This is a really common internet phenomenon. A forum starts with a few people, grows slowly around the group of regulars. Everyone congratulates themselves on how civil they are and how amazing the forum is...how it is the only nice place on the internet etc. Then it keeps growing and more people find out, and soon the newest members start to overwhelm the core group, and the core group starts on the "it ain't like it used to be" track. At this point, traffic increases to the point that the owner/operator can't support it without ads, and that really ticks off the core group, and several people leave. This continues to brew, and more people leave, but new members take their place and post a great deal. The sense of a "club" will never return due to the size of the forum, but it can still be a nice place to hang out.

Anyway, the EXACT same thing happened at head-fi.org (started out as a headphone website, now a huge audio site. I was one of the early members and a mod, but now there was 15-20,000 members and it is a totally different place. Still useful though...perhaps more now than ever. But I don't hang out there much anymore.

 

[JohnM]

Stuart nailed it.

 

[Fedzilla_Bob]

Do I get all upset that RFF has established a limit on PMs? ?

The limit on the number of messages allowed to fill your inbox has been in place since before I joined.

There was however no limit on the number of images one could upload at a time.

Just a little historical perspective.

 

[Ken Ford]

The limit on the number of messages allowed to fill your inbox has been in place since before I joined.

As recently as early March, the limit was either 60 or 70 messages.

 

[RJBender]

This is a really common internet phenomenon. A forum starts with a few people, grows slowly around the group of regulars. Everyone congratulates themselves on how civil they are and how amazing the forum is...how it is the only nice place on the internet etc. Then it keeps growing and more people find out, and soon the newest members start to overwhelm the core group, and the core group starts on the "it ain't like it used to be" track. At this point, traffic increases to the point that the owner/operator can't support it without ads, and that really ticks off the core group, and several people leave. This continues to brew, and more people leave, but new members take their place and post a great deal. The sense of a "club" will never return due to the size of the forum, but it can still be a nice place to hang out.

Anyway, the EXACT same thing happened at head-fi.org (started out as a headphone website, now a huge audio site. I was one of the early members and a mod, but now there was 15-20,000 members and it is a totally different place. Still useful though...perhaps more now than ever. But I don't hang out there much anymore.

Stuart is right. Some people call it the Big fish in a little pond syndrome.

R.J.

 

[RJBender]

Many of us know the "things" that happened at RFF in the past few months, specially in the past month.

I knew something was "off" at RFF. I slowly realized that, RFF...had somehow lost something.

>> http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22415 <<

I won't go into a long ramble as to why I think things happened and who and why. That was beaten down for weeks. We're beyond that now. I am.

So many of the familiar names and heavy contributors have made this less of a home in cyberspace. Sure, many of us are here, but there is family missing.

I miss many of you. Some of you are gone for good, many of you hardly ever show up anymore. I hope that the ones that are still here don't leave.

How much soul can one lose?
...

Moderators/Jorge: you may move to where you think is best appropriate.

50-100 KB?

Like the others have said, this is only an internet forum.

It may appear to be a place but it's not. People get too addicted and they need a reason to leave. So they get hung up on some minor issue and use that as an excuse to leave. Just my 2¢ worth.


R.J.