wjlapier
Well-known
I recently purchased a Mamiya 7II and 65/4 lens. Finally a MF camera that feels good in my hands! Readng as much as I can about the camera I came across a panorama kit for 135 film. Anyone use this? What size can you print from the negatives, and how many images on a 24 exposure roll?
I'd be interested to see some pictures.
Finally a nice day and I have free time. Going out to shoot TriX320 ( quantity dwindling ) in the Mamiya!
Bill
I'd be interested to see some pictures.
Finally a nice day and I have free time. Going out to shoot TriX320 ( quantity dwindling ) in the Mamiya!
Bill
Bob Michaels
nobody special
The concept of the panorama kit never made any sense to me. I just shoot 120 and crop when I want a panorama aspect ratio. Plus you can duplicate the function of rise and fall of the lens by selecting the top, middle or bottom portion of the neg to crop / use.
bwcolor
Veteran
+1 on the above
Hibbs
R.I.P. Charlie
Bob has got it right. Also, my scanner has trays for 6X6, 6X7 and 35mm negs. But I am not sure how I'd scan a pano 35 negative.
benlees
Well-known
If you use the pano kit you get a lot more shots. Why waste film? A roll of 35mm 36 will give you 17 panoramas. Use 120 you get 10. You can get rolls of 35mm for 2 bucks. 120 is a little more to a lot more. The kits are available for not that much if you are patient. Of course, this only makes sense if you are going to use it a whole bunch.
newsgrunt
Well-known
If one's workflow involves printing the rebate, gotta go 35mm. I've got the adapter and used it a couple of times but found it fiddly to work with but the Xpan is a much better shooting experience 
Also sold my 7II so no need for it anymore.
Also sold my 7II so no need for it anymore.
keytarjunkie
no longer addicted
If you use 220, you get twenty shots on 6x7. The only reason a pano kit makes sense to me is if the film you want to use isn't available in medium format. Otherwise I would rather just crop.
EdSawyer
Established
Agreed on film
Agreed on film
To me the main reason was to use it on films that were no longer available in 120, e.g. Kodachrome 25, HIE, 2475, p3200, etc.
-Ed
Agreed on film
To me the main reason was to use it on films that were no longer available in 120, e.g. Kodachrome 25, HIE, 2475, p3200, etc.
-Ed
benlees
Well-known
220? You are limited to what? Tri X? Portra 400? Both good films; why waste it cropping?:angel:
Bob Michaels
nobody special
But of the four films you mentioned, three are no longer available in 35mm either.
I am not meaning to sound like a smart a**, but just about everything available in 35mm is also available in 120 these days.
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EdSawyer
Established
not available doesn't mean I don't have some
not available doesn't mean I don't have some
All 4 of those films, while discontinued, are still available if you know where to look. Granted, K25 can't be processed any more (as of a few days ago) but the rest can. There's other 35mm-only emulsions also, kodak had a lot of specialty films that were never made in 120. (many of the SO-xxx films for example).
-Ed
not available doesn't mean I don't have some
All 4 of those films, while discontinued, are still available if you know where to look. Granted, K25 can't be processed any more (as of a few days ago) but the rest can. There's other 35mm-only emulsions also, kodak had a lot of specialty films that were never made in 120. (many of the SO-xxx films for example).
-Ed
yukio
 
Hey Bill,
I used the adapter when I had the 7II. For print size, simply doubling the width of your standard 35mm print would be a good starting point.
In use, the adapter can be liberating. With 135 loaded, I didn't treat each shot as preciously as with 120. Depending on what/where you're shooting, that can make a difference. I would typically use it in a street or casual situation, where shooting more helps and you are not likely to want to shoot 120.
43mm:
80mm:
I used the adapter when I had the 7II. For print size, simply doubling the width of your standard 35mm print would be a good starting point.
In use, the adapter can be liberating. With 135 loaded, I didn't treat each shot as preciously as with 120. Depending on what/where you're shooting, that can make a difference. I would typically use it in a street or casual situation, where shooting more helps and you are not likely to want to shoot 120.
43mm:
80mm:
Roger Warren
AddlepatedWight
Hey Bill,
I used the adapter when I had the 7II. For print size, simply doubling the width of your standard 35mm print would be a good starting point.
In use, the adapter can be liberating. With 135 loaded, I didn't treat each shot as preciously as with 120. Depending on what/where you're shooting, that can make a difference. I would typically use it in a street or casual situation, where shooting more helps and you are not likely to want to shoot 120.
43mm:
80mm:
I shoot the same way with the same lenses. Using 135 presented me with a new and very challenging perspective of capturing. I think it's great for changing things up at times.
atlcruiser
Part Yeti
I almost bought one to use the mamiya 7 lens options that my x pan does not have. I might end up with one eventually but all I have read mentioned advance issues.
I agree that one can take a full frame and crop, and that most all 35mm film is avail in 120 as well....but............ to me that lessens the experience. having a limit on my FOV forces me to compose within that FOV. My X pan really showed me this.
I would say...at the risk of being smashed that if one wants to really learn the pano format no amount of FF and cropping will do that. if one wnats to have the occassional pano image then cropping form FF is the cheap way to go.
I agree that one can take a full frame and crop, and that most all 35mm film is avail in 120 as well....but............ to me that lessens the experience. having a limit on my FOV forces me to compose within that FOV. My X pan really showed me this.
I would say...at the risk of being smashed
that if one wants to really learn the pano format no amount of FF and cropping will do that. if one wnats to have the occassional pano image then cropping form FF is the cheap way to go.