sar-photo
Simon Robinson
I'm looking at getting a panoramic camera for street and urban photography and probably a bit of landscape as well. It'll either be a Fotoman 612 with a 65mm lens (21mm equiv on 35mm) or a Fotoman 617 with a 90mm lens (19mm equiv on 35mm).
I was wondering if anyone could point me to any examples of panoramic street/urban photography so I can decide between 6x12 and 6x17. At the moment I'm tending towards the 617, but then you do get 2 extra frames on 612, but then 617 is soooo nice, but the 612 is lighter, but then 617 is sooo nice! Do you see my dilemma?
Cheers
Simon
I was wondering if anyone could point me to any examples of panoramic street/urban photography so I can decide between 6x12 and 6x17. At the moment I'm tending towards the 617, but then you do get 2 extra frames on 612, but then 617 is soooo nice, but the 612 is lighter, but then 617 is sooo nice! Do you see my dilemma?
Cheers
Simon
fixbones
.......sometimes i thinks
No advice here...sorry
But just wanna let to know that i enjoyed looking at your pictures on your website =D
But just wanna let to know that i enjoyed looking at your pictures on your website =D
sar-photo
Simon Robinson
Thanks - maybe one day I'll get to post some panoramics!!
spkennedy3000
www.simonkennedy.net
Try "White Sea Black Sea" by Jens Olof Lasthein...
Very nice book, some of the work maybe online if you google.
Very nice book, some of the work maybe online if you google.
trix
Established
http://www.mvgphoto.com/portfolio/portfolioliste.html
Also google for "Tony Dummett" on photo.net
And of course Josef Koudelka
Also google for "Tony Dummett" on photo.net
And of course Josef Koudelka
trix
Established
sepiareverb
genius and moron
A friend of mine loves the XPAN for this...
gns
Well-known
Stephen Shore had some recent work in a show this summer (303 gallery, NY) that you might want to seek out. A couple of examples here (scroll to bottom)...
http://www.303gallery.com/exhibition/index.php?exh_id=118&images
Cheers,
Gary
http://www.303gallery.com/exhibition/index.php?exh_id=118&images
Cheers,
Gary
nksyoon
Well-known
Josef Koudelka's "Chaos"
http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/c.aspx?VP=XSpecific_MAG.BookDetail_VPage&pid=2K7O3R158ZS9
http://www.delpire.fr/Koudelka-chaos.htm
Michael von Graffenried - Noblex, Xpan
http://www.mvgphoto.com/portfolio/portfolioliste.html
Video: http://www.mvgphoto.com/PhotoSuisse/PhotoSuisse_en.html
http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/c.aspx?VP=XSpecific_MAG.BookDetail_VPage&pid=2K7O3R158ZS9
http://www.delpire.fr/Koudelka-chaos.htm
Michael von Graffenried - Noblex, Xpan
http://www.mvgphoto.com/portfolio/portfolioliste.html
Video: http://www.mvgphoto.com/PhotoSuisse/PhotoSuisse_en.html
peter_n
Veteran
Thanks also for the link to Michael von Graffenried's work, excellent stuff looks like it was done with an Xpan. To the OP look at Koudelka's book Chaos. Also that 90mm lens is quite wide for street, Koudelka used a 105mm lens on his 617 body. Personally I prefer the 617 format as I don't find the Xpan gives me a true panoramic feel.And of course Josef Koudelka
nksyoon
Well-known
The choice of camera may depend on what type of street/urban photographs you're after. The Xpan is smaller and has aperture priority exposure which speeds things up a bit. You get 21 shots per 135-36 roll. A 612 or 617 camera will probably be slower to operate and have less shots per roll but much better negative quality.
Some of my Xpan shots:
Some of my Xpan shots:





peter_n
Veteran
Great pix Nick!
Koudelka got his inspriration from the great Czech, Josef Sudek. Sudek was truly an amazing man, and it was his work with a home-made panoramic camera in north-west Bohemia that got Koudelka started on his panoramic "mission". Sudek also shot many panoramics in Prague. Sad Landscape shot in Bohemia is still available in central Europe, but Prague Panoramic is out of print and extremely expensive. Sudek was a visual lyricist and his work is well worth studying. You can probably get the books through your local library.
Koudelka got his inspriration from the great Czech, Josef Sudek. Sudek was truly an amazing man, and it was his work with a home-made panoramic camera in north-west Bohemia that got Koudelka started on his panoramic "mission". Sudek also shot many panoramics in Prague. Sad Landscape shot in Bohemia is still available in central Europe, but Prague Panoramic is out of print and extremely expensive. Sudek was a visual lyricist and his work is well worth studying. You can probably get the books through your local library.
sar-photo
Simon Robinson
Great photo's. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go for the 617 - I think 612 could be a bit stubby!
didjiman
Richard Man
I am having trouble visualization Street Photography and 617 cameras....
Jeff S
Well-known
Or, get a shift lens for your existing camera and stitch together in PS.
Jeff
Jeff
peter_n
Veteran
I am having trouble visualization Street Photography and 617 cameras....
Good stuff! A couple from Josef Koudelka:
http://bit.ly/159LY0, http://bit.ly/CsgaP, http://bit.ly/EbYsl
and one from me, this shows a historical tableau on Friedrichstrasse near Checkpoint Charlie. The two lines of paving
stone in the footpath and road left-of-center marks the old border between East and West Berlin.

x-ray
Veteran
I have a Fuji G617 with the 105. Great camera but it is large, gets 4frames on 120 and only focused down to about 10ft. I would select the Xpan for strre shooting. Oh yes, the max aperture on the Fuji 105 is f8 and then the center filter that I feel is essential knocks it down to f11. I had a Widelux for a while and liked shooting it but it was a high maintenance camera.
peter_n
Veteran
That Fuji G617/105 is the camera Josef Koudelka used for his panoramics and the book Chaos. I have a Fotoman 617 with a Schneider 110/2.8 lens that doesn't need a center filter which I suppose makes it much more usable. I really like the format though.
sar-photo
Simon Robinson
Call me fickle, but now I'm tending towards the 612 with a 65mm Rodenstock lens. It's smaller and lighter than the 617 (obviously!) and I can always crop if I want a 3:1 panoramic.
Simon
Simon
peter_n
Veteran
It is certainly practical to do that, but you will probably end up with fewer panoramics than you will with a dedicated pano body.
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