sr1200
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Hello all, I have my father's old Paxette but can't figure out how to get the rangefinder focus to work. I assume it works just like my Leica, so that when I adjust the focus on the lens, I should see two images converge, yes? I only see one image, and nothing changes.
Also, the light meter isn't working, but that's not much of a concern. The focus is, however.
Thoughts? I've already sent it to the gent down in NZ for him to fix the shutter, but he didn't mention the focus issue.
Thanks, Steve
Also, the light meter isn't working, but that's not much of a concern. The focus is, however.
Thoughts? I've already sent it to the gent down in NZ for him to fix the shutter, but he didn't mention the focus issue.
Thanks, Steve
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
Which model do you have? There were a bunch, many without a rangefinder.
bmattock
Veteran
Hello all, I have my father's old Paxette but can't figure out how to get the rangefinder focus to work. I assume it works just like my Leica, so that when I adjust the focus on the lens, I should see two images converge, yes? I only see one image, and nothing changes.
Also, the light meter isn't working, but that's not much of a concern. The focus is, however.
Thoughts? I've already sent it to the gent down in NZ for him to fix the shutter, but he didn't mention the focus issue.
Thanks, Steve
As mentioned, there were a lot of Paxettes. Some were not rangefinders, so that's a possibility.
Of those that were rangefinders (typically but not always known as 'Super' Paxettes'), some have removable lenses and some do not.
Presuming yours is a rangefinder model AND that it has a removable lens, you can unscrew the lens and remove it from the camera. Under the lens, you will find a thin piece of metal that gets pushed in under spring pressure as the lens focus is adjusted. This is what moves the rangefinder patch in the viewfinder. By holding the camera up to your eye without the lens on, and pushing the metal pressure plate in and letting it spring back, you should see the rangefinder patch move.
If there is a metal spring-loaded plate but the patch doesn't move, then you have a mechanical issue with the rangefinder.
If there is no metal spring-loaded plate, then you probably do not have a rangefinder camera.
Another possibility if you have a rangefinder AND you have a removable lens model, is that the lens itself is not rangefinder-coupled. Braun made many lenses for the Paxette. Some were removable but were NOT rangefinder-coupled. The coupled lenses all have an -E- on the rim of the lens where you find the focal length, manufacturer, and f-stop information. If there is no -E-, you probably do not have a coupled lens.
There were also Braun Paxettes that used 'Deckel' or 'DKL' mount. Totally different system.
Final thought - the Paxette removable lens rangefinders are 39mm screw mount. Other 39mm lenses may physically screw on, but won't engage the rangefinder correctly or at all. For example, M39 lenses designed for SLR cameras (predated M42), or lenses designed for Leica cameras.
I would recommend you post a couple photos of the camera and the lens, and the back of the lens if it is a removable one. We can probably be of more help then.
sr1200
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Fair enough, here's a low res image of it.

sr1200
Established
I'll get another few photos from above and behind the lens as soon as possible. (likely a day or two)
nhchen
Nathan
Is the lightmeter you mention the extinction meter on the camera? If it has that then there will be no rangefinder on it and you'll have to just scale focus the camera.
regards,
nathan
regards,
nathan
farlymac
PF McFarland
Looks like a IIM. http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Paxette
And by the way, the gent in NZ has a page about the Paxette. http://retinarescue.com/paxettehistory.html
Or maybe it's just a plain II. http://licm.org.uk/livingImage/Paxette.html
PF
And by the way, the gent in NZ has a page about the Paxette. http://retinarescue.com/paxettehistory.html
Or maybe it's just a plain II. http://licm.org.uk/livingImage/Paxette.html
PF
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
If it's a IIM the rangefinder is uncoupled. You rangefind with a little wheel on top, rather than by turning the lens.
sr1200
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So... after review of the sites, the best I can figure it's a IIM, which *has no rangefinder function* (is that correct?)
Perhaps the "light meter" (I learned a new term... extinction meter) is what I thought was the second window for the rangefinder.
???
Perhaps the "light meter" (I learned a new term... extinction meter) is what I thought was the second window for the rangefinder.
???
sr1200
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You rangefind with a little wheel on top
Umm... ok, somewhere you're going to point me to a manual, but you really stumped me with this one. "rangefind with a little wheel on top"
I know the little wheel. I turn it while looking through the (now) viewfinder? Or?
johnf04
Well-known
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
I know the little wheel. I turn it while looking through the (now) viewfinder?
Right. If nothing happens, the mirror is stuck or has desilvered.
sr1200
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Right. If nothing happens, the mirror is stuck or has desilvered.
So, when I turn the wheel I should see something happen in the viewfinder? But... it's not actively focusing.. I just transfer the number from the wheel to the lens?
sr1200
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Read the link, yeah, that's how it's supposed to work. I'll have to try it. (my camera may not be broken at all!)
And on to the extinction meter, I can't see anything through the little hole, any way to fix this? I use Sunny 16 for my Leica and Rollei, I can do so with this too, but it would be nice if it worked.
And on to the extinction meter, I can't see anything through the little hole, any way to fix this? I use Sunny 16 for my Leica and Rollei, I can do so with this too, but it would be nice if it worked.
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
Read the link, yeah, that's how it's supposed to work. I'll have to try it. (my camera may not be broken at all!)
And on to the extinction meter, I can't see anything through the little hole, any way to fix this? I use Sunny 16 for my Leica and Rollei, I can do so with this too, but it would be nice if it worked.
If it has a rangefinder, it won't have the extinction meter since there was only space for one or the other under the top plate.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I have one of these that I was given by my next door neighbour a while ago. Mine has a rangefinder which actually works ok but the viewfinder is very small and also very dim. Quite a well made little camera ... the way the lens connects to the rangefinder mechanism is intriguing.
bmattock
Veteran
I can't say if the camera body is a rangefinder-coupled model or not. But the lens is NOT rangefinder coupled, so that explains that.
http://cameratique.com/SUPER-PAXETT...STAEBLE-KATA-1:2.8-45-LENS-f=45mm-CASED-CLEAN
See the -E- on the lens? If it hasn't got that, it's not a rangefinder-coupled lens. Sorry.
Chances are that the camera body is also not a rangefinder body, assuming that is the lens it came with, so getting a rangefinder-coupled lens won't help you either.
The idea behind rangefinder cameras that were NOT coupled to the lens was that you did your rangefinder focusing to determine the distance to your subject and then manually transferred that number (meters or feet) to the lens. Very slow and cumbersome, so the 'super' cameras which offered coupled rangefinders were much preferred.
Enjoy your camera for what it is - have fun with it! It's not that difficult to do manual distance-based focusing, and if the camera rangefinder doesn't work (presuming it has one), you can always pick up an inexpensive external rangefinder. Slip it in the accessory shoe, find your range, transfer that number to your lens, and you're good to go.
http://cameratique.com/SUPER-PAXETT...STAEBLE-KATA-1:2.8-45-LENS-f=45mm-CASED-CLEAN
See the -E- on the lens? If it hasn't got that, it's not a rangefinder-coupled lens. Sorry.
Chances are that the camera body is also not a rangefinder body, assuming that is the lens it came with, so getting a rangefinder-coupled lens won't help you either.
The idea behind rangefinder cameras that were NOT coupled to the lens was that you did your rangefinder focusing to determine the distance to your subject and then manually transferred that number (meters or feet) to the lens. Very slow and cumbersome, so the 'super' cameras which offered coupled rangefinders were much preferred.
Enjoy your camera for what it is - have fun with it! It's not that difficult to do manual distance-based focusing, and if the camera rangefinder doesn't work (presuming it has one), you can always pick up an inexpensive external rangefinder. Slip it in the accessory shoe, find your range, transfer that number to your lens, and you're good to go.
sr1200
Established
Well, the camera has the "little wheel" at the top and kinda functioned to "rangefind" last night when I tried it. (I am being careful not to say "rangefinder").
I suppose that the fact that it has the wheel means that it does NOT have the extinction meter? But it has the little peep hole for the extinction meter... confusing.
Right, that's my plan. I DID want to find out if it was broken or just didn't have a rangefinding features, but now that I understand that it is basically working, but just not as complex as I'm used to, I'm ok with that.
BTW, thanks everyone for the great help. I'm new to this forum but EVERY TIME I've gotten some very detailed and helpful commentary. Nice!
I suppose that the fact that it has the wheel means that it does NOT have the extinction meter? But it has the little peep hole for the extinction meter... confusing.
Enjoy your camera for what it is - have fun with it!
Right, that's my plan. I DID want to find out if it was broken or just didn't have a rangefinding features, but now that I understand that it is basically working, but just not as complex as I'm used to, I'm ok with that.
BTW, thanks everyone for the great help. I'm new to this forum but EVERY TIME I've gotten some very detailed and helpful commentary. Nice!
sr1200
Established
So guys, sorry I missed this answer, but because it has the "little wheel" (rangefinding wheel?) it doesn't have an extinction meter, right? Even though it has the peep hole for the meter?
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
So guys, sorry I missed this answer, but because it has the "little wheel" (rangefinding wheel?) it doesn't have an extinction meter, right? Even though it has the peep hole for the meter?
It can't. The rangefinder takes up the space and uses the window that would be used by the extinction meter, so they can only have one or the other.
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