MaxElmar
Well-known
Nice introduction at Re/Code. Did not see it in this article, but the software is supposed to be extensible with plug-ins. This could make up for the current lack of some features found in Aperture. (Hope I'm using the word "extensible" correctly.) And, before someone bursts a blood vessel over it, storing everything in iCloud is completely optional.
http://recode.net/2015/02/05/first-look-apples-photos-app-for-mac-os-x/
http://recode.net/2015/02/05/first-look-apples-photos-app-for-mac-os-x/
Godfrey
somewhat colored
I'm encouraged by what I've seen.
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Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
I don't care for iPhoto, but I just adore Aperture. Sounds like my ship is sinking. I'll use Aperture as long as I can and keep my Lightroom skills somewhat up to date.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Glad I use Lightroom already... Seems Apple chose to cater for the masses, not for the professional anymore...
danielsterno
making soup from mud
at least there is "something coming". I assumed that for more sophisticated users there would be partnering apps for additional PP, besides silver efex etc.
rolfe
Well-known
Apple is supposedly offering a "path" to migrate existing iPhoto libraries to Lightroom.
Frankly, if I were still using iPhoto with it's weird proprietary library database, that's the solution I'd run, not walk, to.
Frankly, if I were still using iPhoto with it's weird proprietary library database, that's the solution I'd run, not walk, to.
GaryLH
Veteran
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
I have some photos in iPhoto. It's OK, but I love what I can do with Aperture. I bought Lightroom after reading about it, but abandoned it after a brief try. And abandoned is how I feel now that Apple is ditching Aperture. You would think that a company that owes its existence to its loyal customers would think twice before altering the operating system of future Macs so as to shut Aperture out. Well, I won't buy any Apple computer that won't run Aperture. Maybe I will pick up an extra Macbook and iMac for security. But you can only install a copy of Aperture on two computers. What to do about that? Can we get someone to hack the program so it can be installed on more Macs? :bang:
I wonder if we could get together as a group to exert pressure on Apple to keep Aperture going.
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
"While Apple believes that Photos will offer enough to satisfy many current Aperture users and pros, the company said it also understands that others might opt for a more powerful editing program like Adobe Lightroom."
A more powerful program? OK, how about Aperture?
A more powerful program? OK, how about Aperture?
Lss
Well-known
I have been using Lightroom since the news from Apple. It's not a terrible experience, and it obviously has powerful features that Aperture lacked, but I still much prefer the Aperture experience. It was so straightforward and powerful enough for most projects and images. If there was future for Aperture, I would not have migrated.
Perhaps Photos will be useful as an album presentation software or something.
Perhaps Photos will be useful as an album presentation software or something.
MaxElmar
Well-known
Currently, I'm using Aperture simply as a bridge to get carefully edited versions and sets of my best photos from my real cameras into iCloud, out to my family, and on my iPhone and iPad. It seems like Photos will serve that purpose quite well.
It would be great if, with some 3rd party plug-ins, Photos developed into a genuine alternative to LR (as Aperture was a few years ago). If my boss pays me to use Adobe products, that's fine, but as a consumer, I like having choices, I like competition.
It would be great if, with some 3rd party plug-ins, Photos developed into a genuine alternative to LR (as Aperture was a few years ago). If my boss pays me to use Adobe products, that's fine, but as a consumer, I like having choices, I like competition.
Aristophanes
Well-known
Tiny and, frankly, shrinking, market.
willie_901
Veteran
The new Photos is simply iPhoto on steroids.
i use iPhotos for photos I did not make or for situations when I use an iPhone for record keeping involving images. I use it sparingly for family video. I do use it for my personal and commerce web sites. I export JPEGs frm LR to iPhoto to seamlessly use them in Sandovx (a web site development app).
I'll use Photos the same way.
I do feel badly for photographers who enjoy Aperture. But that ship is headed for decommissioning. I suggest exporing Pixelmator as a powerful, economical alternate platform.
i use iPhotos for photos I did not make or for situations when I use an iPhone for record keeping involving images. I use it sparingly for family video. I do use it for my personal and commerce web sites. I export JPEGs frm LR to iPhoto to seamlessly use them in Sandovx (a web site development app).
I'll use Photos the same way.
I do feel badly for photographers who enjoy Aperture. But that ship is headed for decommissioning. I suggest exporing Pixelmator as a powerful, economical alternate platform.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Pixelmator is a completely different kind of image processing application. It's not a platform, nor are any of these apps. Pixelmatr is more similar to Photoshop Essentials, Photoshop CC, etc.
Lightroom and DarkTable (open source) are the most similar to Aperture in terms of functionality (integrated image management and parametric image editing). Capture One is close in some ways too.
I've never been a "fan" of iPhoto or Aperture, although I've used both over the years for various things. The Lightroom workflow is right in line with how I think, using it has been a natural since the second Public Beta in 2005. But what I've seen of Photos is actually encouraging, and its extensible design might put it right in there for many.
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dasuess
Nikon Freak
As a long time user of Aperture, I have been holding out to see what the new Photos app will be like. While I realize that it can be extended by 3rd party stuff, that's not gonna happen fast or soon.
I have started looking into Lightroom... What exactly do you get with the Creative Cloud/Photography subscription? Just LR and PS? Has anyone used the function to import an Aperture (referenced) library into LR?
I have started looking into Lightroom... What exactly do you get with the Creative Cloud/Photography subscription? Just LR and PS? Has anyone used the function to import an Aperture (referenced) library into LR?
Samouraï
Well-known
I hate Lightroom's library organization method. I loved the simplicity of Aperture's. I need the ability to be able to move libraries around and will, between servers and external hard drives. Lightroom is an absolute mess for this.
But if I ever switch to another photo-managing software, I'll be using Capture One.
Right now, I've migrated to Adobe Bridge + Photoshop.
But if I ever switch to another photo-managing software, I'll be using Capture One.
Right now, I've migrated to Adobe Bridge + Photoshop.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
LR and Capture One use almost exactly the same model of file to catalog organization: entry by reference. If you hate one, you should hate the other.
What I always disliked about iPhoto and Aperture was exactly their "library organization" (or "managed files" system) ... They hide the directory structure of a bunch of files behind a single icon representation in an opaque fashion and use that file system structure as a part of the database logic itself. I was delighted when they added the ability to manage files by reference, just like Lightroom.
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Godfrey
somewhat colored
I don't know about that. Apple introduced that capability for iOS with iOS 8 in the Fall, and I already have a dozen apps that I can call from inside Photos on iOS to do editing with. The trick is how it's implemented... makes it easy to write an app extension.
I use Lightroom and Photoshop with perpetual licenses. There's no addition to LR given by CC, far as I know. Photoshop CC is extended with the CC subscription, but I use PS so infrequently that I've stuck with CS5.1.
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danielsterno
making soup from mud
I'm a aperture user, not a heavy user but enjoy the UI and managing the libraries. I mostly PP in Silver Efex and only do very light Aperture PP thus MAYBE Photo can work for a user like me as long as I can keep using Silver Efex. I tried LR from the trial, as much as I wanted to make it work, I just don't get the user interaction. change is OK but forced change without good user interface product optons is not OK. .... I'll stay with Aperture as log as I can and hoping Photos can work
dasuess
Nikon Freak
Well, I have downloaded the LR 30-day trial and attempted to import my main Aperture Library and it failed. From the web it appears that others have experienced the same problem, so I'm giving up on that.
I'm going to just create a new LR catalog by importing some/all of my masters and then try it out. Won't be losing much since the adjustments done in Aperture won't come over anyway (unless I create file for each adjusted image).
I haven't committed to LR yet, but now is as good a time as any to check it out as a place to land when Aperture is no longer supported.
I'm going to just create a new LR catalog by importing some/all of my masters and then try it out. Won't be losing much since the adjustments done in Aperture won't come over anyway (unless I create file for each adjusted image).
I haven't committed to LR yet, but now is as good a time as any to check it out as a place to land when Aperture is no longer supported.