scho
Well-known
Just noticed that Epson store is listing the R-D1 as in stock again (new - NOT refurb):
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=49164277
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=49164277
Topdog1
Well-known
What a bargain. $3000 for a new camera you can get just as broken for $1500 used. Buy it used and pocket the difference.
/Ira
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Robert
Guest
Buy it now for $2999. In a year trade it in for an M8 and probably lose $2500.
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Robert
Guest
Have faith, the Leica will work.-----Wont it
dreamsandart
Well-known
The interesting thing for me is that although I'm not going to spend that much on a M8, all the talk of a digital M got me thinking and at about $1,700 (new R-D1) the Epson does seem like a camera I'd like to take a chance on (there is a 1 year Japanese warranty here). Going into Kyoto today and may be back with one this afternoon if it works out.
jlw
Rangefinder camera pedant
Buy it now for $2999. In a year trade it in for an M8 and probably lose $2500.
Yeah, but if you take enough good pictures during that year, it'll be worth it.
Topdog1
Well-known
ErikFive said:If Epson get their Customer support together Ill probably keep my Rd-1s and buy a second. I love the camera.
2 x R-D1s = 1 M8
/Ira
Innerimager
Established
I think the recent response to the "refurbs", many of which I think were new, mine sure appeared to be including the packaging, Epson realizes it probably can sell them at full price again. Just a guess....Peter
Innerimager
Established
I think with the strong response Epson has been getting for the refurbs, they feel they can get full price at this point. I'm pretty sure my "refurb" was brand new both by the looks of it and the packaging which contained a promo that passed a year ago, and that many of the refurbs were new. Just a guess, not saying what to do with it! best...Peter
fgianni
Trainee Amateur
I think that $3000 for an R-D1 nowadays is completely out of whack, it was an acceptable price 2+ years ago, but now that digital technology has moved on quite a bit it does not make sense; $2000 new would be a sensible price and I think they would start to sell well.
Joe Mondello
Resu Deretsiger
Innerimager said:I'm pretty sure my "refurb" was brand new both by the looks of it and the packaging which contained a promo that passed a year ago, and that many of the refurbs were new....Peter
You got lucky, Peter.
Mine definitely was not in the extravagant original packaging, but in a plain white cardboard box.
Mine also started life with me at 280 clicks which leads me to believe it might have been a demo or one with the bad shutter that died early and was replaced by Epson.
I think I need to test the RF to determine how far out of alignment it is and send it off to DAG sine I am all thumbs with small tools.
jlw
Rangefinder camera pedant
The spare R-D 1 battery I just got from Epson came in a box so yellowed and dusty that it must have been sitting around on some forgotten shelf since Day 1.
In fact, I wonder if the sudden re-availability of the batteries AND R-D 1s might be tied to an unexpected cache of them turning up somewhere.
I picture a scene something like the final scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark, where a couple of stockers are rooting around some vast Epson warehouse looking for a lost shipment of ink cartridges or something, and suddenly one of them says, "Hey, lookee what I found..."
In fact, I wonder if the sudden re-availability of the batteries AND R-D 1s might be tied to an unexpected cache of them turning up somewhere.
I picture a scene something like the final scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark, where a couple of stockers are rooting around some vast Epson warehouse looking for a lost shipment of ink cartridges or something, and suddenly one of them says, "Hey, lookee what I found..."
Sailor Ted
Well-known
My guess- they were selling a combination of new and refurb units as refurb. Then some executive had an idea- "these things are flying off the shelf. Let's make more money and charge full hit for the new cameras we still have in stock". Now sales will slow to a trickle, the cameras will languish on the shelf, and we'll be seeing refurbs again in six months time.
I hope the exec that had this bright idea gets a big fat raise
I also hope they reduce the price to a more reasonable $2k. That would be great and at that price the camera would continue to sell- but not at 3k IMO.
I hope the exec that had this bright idea gets a big fat raise
I also hope they reduce the price to a more reasonable $2k. That would be great and at that price the camera would continue to sell- but not at 3k IMO.
usayit
Well-known
Man.. Joe... feel for yah. We both got our r-d1 the same day. Mine arrived in the same bland white box but looks brand new. Not a single sign of usage... Even more important, the rangefinder seems dead on. I guess I was lucky. My spare battery arrived last week so I'm good to go.
dreamsandart
Well-known
I've seen it mentioned, how do you check the number of times the camera has used the shutter?
IGMeanwell
Well-known
Look at the Exif data on a unmanipulated shot
www.irfanview.com
if you download that image viewer, open a picture from the RD-1 and press E you will see the exif data
www.irfanview.com
if you download that image viewer, open a picture from the RD-1 and press E you will see the exif data
dreamsandart
Well-known
Using a Mac and opening the 'get info' in preview I see the 'Exif Properties' and information, but nothing that would show number of exposures that I can see.
LCT
ex-newbie
I can't seem to get this on my Exif data personally.IGMeanwell said:Look at the Exif data on a unmanipulated shot...
Would you mind to show a copy of your Exif data with shutter count?
Thanks,
LCT
IGMeanwell
Well-known
Bob Parsons
Established
IGMeanwell said:Alright... here is a screenshot of what would happen if you pressed e when you have a shot up in irfanview
near the bottom is says total pictures
mine says 27,921
Hmmmm.... very strange. I'm using Irfanview 3.99 on XP with that versions associated plugins. Many items listed in the EXIF display are different to yours and some are missing. The exposure count isn't listed for RAW or JPEG files. That's for an R-D1 with the "s" firmware upgrade.
Bob.
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