Starburst
Member
After a lot of research I fished a Retina IIa out of the (e)bay. I paid 50 € and was delighted to discover that it works just fine, it is in great condition as well.
I have to say, I really started to love the camera, it is just beautiful and loads of fun to use.
The first picture shows the camera, the other four pictures were taken with the Retina.
My SLR is starting to feel lonely and abandoned.
I have to say, I really started to love the camera, it is just beautiful and loads of fun to use.
The first picture shows the camera, the other four pictures were taken with the Retina.





My SLR is starting to feel lonely and abandoned.
jbrubaker
Established
Hi - I like your photos - the Retinas are very capable cameras, and I'm glad you're enjoying yours! I have a model IIIc that I've never even put film into, but now you've inspired me to give it a try. Thanks for posting ---john.
ludoo
Established
Wonderful camera and nice shots, I especially like the second one. I've been idly looking for one too for some time, but there's always something else to buy first. After seeing yours the Retina is back on top of my "to get" list again. 
leica M2 fan
Veteran
1,2 and 4 are super in my book! I have the lla and the llc and love them both. The lla will be wonderful in pretty low light situations. I think I prefer the rendition of the Schneider lens in the llc but it is 2.8.
Starburst
Member
Thanks a lot for the comments. 
The lens is indeed quite fast. With a 400 ISO film I can still do a lot even in low light conditions. It is thus a very versatile camera. And it teaches you to be very exact with focusing, simply because you have to at f2.
For me, this camera though is the perfect street shooter. It is very small and fits into every pocket. The shutter is incredibly silent, just a whisper so usually people don't even notice you are taking their picture. And if they do, the old design usually charms people.
The lens is indeed quite fast. With a 400 ISO film I can still do a lot even in low light conditions. It is thus a very versatile camera. And it teaches you to be very exact with focusing, simply because you have to at f2.
For me, this camera though is the perfect street shooter. It is very small and fits into every pocket. The shutter is incredibly silent, just a whisper so usually people don't even notice you are taking their picture. And if they do, the old design usually charms people.
Your model is the less common IIa with the Heligon lens. It and the Xenon are equivalent lenses, both fantastic.
I have a very late model IIC which is unusual in that it has an unmarked F2 setting. Other IIC's that I've seen will not open up past F2.8. The F2.8 front module comes off, and the F2 module from my IIIc works well in its place.
I have a very late model IIC which is unusual in that it has an unmarked F2 setting. Other IIC's that I've seen will not open up past F2.8. The F2.8 front module comes off, and the F2 module from my IIIc works well in its place.
Starburst
Member
I think I read somewhere that basically two versions of the IIa were produced. One with the Xenon lens which was shipped to America and the other one with the Heligon lens which was sold in Europe/Germany. Since I am currently living in Germany and also bought the camera here, this would explain why I got the version with the Heligon lens.
sanmich
Veteran
would someone know a good place for retina CLAin the US?
malkmata
Well-known
Beautiful Retina you got there! Great shots too.
My Retina IIA replaced my Leica IIf as my carry around/everywhere camera
because the folding design makes it pocketable. It is also has a reasonably
fast Xenon f2 lens that I find sharp enough to compete with my other LTM lenses.
It is also has a complete slower shutter speed that the Leica IIF doesn't have.
To make my IIF compact I have to use a Fed50 ( Elmar copy) lens with it, but
the lens is much slower at f3.5
My Retina IIA replaced my Leica IIf as my carry around/everywhere camera
because the folding design makes it pocketable. It is also has a reasonably
fast Xenon f2 lens that I find sharp enough to compete with my other LTM lenses.
It is also has a complete slower shutter speed that the Leica IIF doesn't have.
To make my IIF compact I have to use a Fed50 ( Elmar copy) lens with it, but
the lens is much slower at f3.5
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dazedgonebye
Veteran
That's a mighty pretty camera for the money. I think you did very well.
My IIa is in line for the next roll of 35mm film I run.
My IIa is in line for the next roll of 35mm film I run.
would someone know a good place for retina CLAin the US?
Which model do you have, and what is wrong with it. The Retina "GURU" in the US passed away several years ago. George Mrus. Depending on the model, you might be best to ship it to New Zealand for repair. If the finder is hazy, it is easy to pop the top and clean it. Same with flood cleaning the shutter, remove the optics and flood clean it. Retina SLR's are beyond most most technicians. Off to New Zealand for them.
sanmich
Veteran
Which model do you have, and what is wrong with it. The Retina "GURU" in the US passed away several years ago. George Mrus. Depending on the model, you might be best to ship it to New Zealand for repair. If the finder is hazy, it is easy to pop the top and clean it. Same with flood cleaning the shutter, remove the optics and flood clean it. Retina SLR's are beyond most most technicians. Off to New Zealand for them.
I have a II, with a Xenon.
I think all is needed is a VF cleaning and a lens relube.
I didn't find any dismantle instructions online and there are quite a few screws there to try to open all of them and see what happens...
Gumby
Veteran
I think all is needed is a VF cleaning and a lens relube.
It probably needs more than that.
I've read (on some forum) that someone had good experience after sending a Retina to Essex Camera repair.
Whatever you do, don't squirt lighter fluid and hope... things will likely get worse before they get better. And you're right, there are lots of little screws and springs in the shutter. Doing it yourself is possible but the SychroCompur is complex and finicky if not CLEANED and lubricated properly.
sanmich
Veteran
It probably needs more than that.
I've read (on some forum) that someone had good experience after sending a Retina to Essex Camera repair.
Whatever you do, don't squirt lighter fluid and hope... things will likely get worse before they get better. And you're right, there are lots of little screws and springs in the shutter. Doing it yourself is possible but the SychroCompur is complex and finicky if not CLEANED and lubricated properly.
Ed, no offense, but really, I think there are good chances that it's all what is needed.
The shutter sounds good to me.
I was actually referring to the screws on the body, to reach the finder guts.
The finder looks like the annual fair for dust and dirt, and the focus feels like there are preset focus settings, but the rest seems decent, at least fo ra camera which is not, and won't be my "mainstream" camera.
Gumby
Veteran
OK. No offense taken. Generally the shutter needs an overhaul too. I was more reacting to the "lube" without the mention of "clean".
If you decide to clean the rangefinder yourself, consider clean/lube of the cocking rack while you have the top off. Also watch out for the part of the rangefinder with the framelines... it is easily rubbed off.
If you decide to clean the rangefinder yourself, consider clean/lube of the cocking rack while you have the top off. Also watch out for the part of the rangefinder with the framelines... it is easily rubbed off.
Gumby
Veteran
To get the top off you need to (first) remove the rewind knob. Use a screwdriver shank (or the like) and put between the two lugs of the film winding fork... then turn the rewind knob backward. Then remove the screw and the top should come right off. You'll likely want (need) to do a bit of disassembly of the rangefinder mechanism to get out the dirty glass. Be careful -- those are fragile pieces to work with and you take a chance on causing the rangefinder to become misadjusted. But that isn't too difficult to correct... it's just frustrating and time consuming. Good luck!
sanmich
Veteran
To get the top off you need to (first) remove the rewind knob. Use a screwdriver shank (or the like) and put between the two lugs of the film winding fork... then turn the rewind knob backward. Then remove the screw and the top should come right off. You'll likely want (need) to do a bit of disassembly of the rangefinder mechanism to get out the dirty glass. Be careful -- those are fragile pieces to work with and you take a chance on causing the rangefinder to become misadjusted. But that isn't too difficult to correct... it's just frustrating and time consuming. Good luck!
Thanks!
Would you know how to reach the helicoid?
ZeissFan
Veteran
Be very careful when disassembling and reassembling the frame counter. There is a small leaf spring assembly in there, and if you break it, the frame counter won't work.
And you must remove this part in order to remove the top deck.
And you must remove this part in order to remove the top deck.
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