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ruben
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I am really lost in temptation. Temptation kills.
So I will try to expose the pros and cons and do it in my most methodical manner, so you can re-direct me to the good path.
The statistic boring side.
The G10 is going to replace my A590is, my first digi which has revolutionized my daily life.
Being so small, ultracompact, and having AF, plus auto zoom, plus silence, plus different iso, plus either color or BW (saving me the need for two bodies)- ho boy, times have been changing while I was sleeping. Additionally, I must confess I don't have any significant issue with noise at high iso, as natural with grain with high iso film (I don't know what all the noise is about). With film I don't like grain. But with pixels, I do like noise. Strange world.
The A590is has not stopped to go with me for every single day and within the last two months I have counted some 850 shots, and unprecedented average for me since I stopped to free lance many years ago.
True, during these last couple of months several feasts took place, but the images were done. 850 shots divided per 36 (film roll) equals some 23 rolls of film, that put each one at $10 (film+processing+scan) means that the camera has paid itself twice. Or once plus if I had the plethora of small devices I purchased for it.
The G10 costs here in Israel $625, enabling 36 monthly negligible quotas. If I lower the relatively high average of 425 digital shots per month, to 300 (not every month a grand son is born !) this means that the G10 will pay for itself in analog film costs withing near to 8 months or 10 months if I indulge in some extra purchases.
Now why change my actual small wonder on behalf of the G10 ? Not dramatic issues but some:
a) I have processed within photoshop the G10 sample images provided by dpreview in the same way I process those of the A590is, and I cannot identify any difference. Nevertheless I am aware the computer screen lies, and in real prints the difference may show. But so far let's asume NO IMAGE QUALITY IMPROVEMENT, NO MORE DETAIL. Anybody is most welcome to educatedly challenge this or any other statement (of course !).
b) However the G10 comes with two tangible improvements, which I do welcome: the top shoe and the 28mm wide capability.
b1) The top shoe doesn't mean I will mount a flash there, since already in my A590is I use any external flash I own via a small slave touching the camera flash and sending the signal through a synch cord to the analog flash. All these mounted on a light bracket. So no EX flash expense required.
b2) But the top shoe will be usefull for mounting there a Soviet Universal Turret Finder.
As you know, the optical tunel viewfinder of both the A590 and the G10 are close to useless, or better than nothing, and certainly any digi without any kind of eye viewfinder is out for me.
The problem with the these better than nothing viewfinders is that you don't see all the image (85% for the A590is, 77% for the G10). Then there are the parallax issues.
And the main issue is trying to use them for autofocusing. In order to correctly auto focus with these optical tunels, is in guessing while viewing through them, the center spot that is shown in the camera LCD.
But for the shame of Canon, there is no sign or mark within the tunels providing for reference. Fortunately for humanity, those hated reds who dared to insult the original Zeiss turret finders with that comiccommie cross from edge to edge, making laugh so many folks, do provide for a central point, plus parallax mechanical manual correction.
Fortunately, Canon's G10 shoe, instead of Nikon p6000 digi top shoe, is axis centered above the lens.
My assumption is that even if both central spots do not coincide (that in the G10 LCD and the cross inside the UTF) , it will be easy to learn the difference.
The UTF will not be fixed to the G10, but mounted in time of need. So in case everything goes like I assume, I will have a real eyefinder autofocusing option, unprecedented in digitals unless they are DSLR, or semi DSLR.
c) Now lets deal with the 28mm wide. Here you are kindly asked to assume my viewpoint. I never found myself with the 35mm focal length. From the 50 mm focal length, my next stop wider where I found hapiness was ever the 24mm. The 28mm being a kind of default only.
But certainly the 28mm is for me a strong difference than max 35mm.
d) Following there are a lot of improvements on the paper that I don't know if they will really help or who among them will. I will not quote them as to save myself shame.
So this is my case, and you dear RFF reader are asked to pass your advice to me.
Perhaps I am too enthusiastic about the A590is, and instead of continuing with it I am going to sacrifice it. Perhaps the G10 improvements are not enough for the price.
Perhaps the price is not such a drama to extend about and no much harm will be done in case of minor feelings the day after. Let's hear you.
Cheers,
Ruben
So I will try to expose the pros and cons and do it in my most methodical manner, so you can re-direct me to the good path.
The statistic boring side.
The G10 is going to replace my A590is, my first digi which has revolutionized my daily life.
Being so small, ultracompact, and having AF, plus auto zoom, plus silence, plus different iso, plus either color or BW (saving me the need for two bodies)- ho boy, times have been changing while I was sleeping. Additionally, I must confess I don't have any significant issue with noise at high iso, as natural with grain with high iso film (I don't know what all the noise is about). With film I don't like grain. But with pixels, I do like noise. Strange world.
The A590is has not stopped to go with me for every single day and within the last two months I have counted some 850 shots, and unprecedented average for me since I stopped to free lance many years ago.
True, during these last couple of months several feasts took place, but the images were done. 850 shots divided per 36 (film roll) equals some 23 rolls of film, that put each one at $10 (film+processing+scan) means that the camera has paid itself twice. Or once plus if I had the plethora of small devices I purchased for it.
The G10 costs here in Israel $625, enabling 36 monthly negligible quotas. If I lower the relatively high average of 425 digital shots per month, to 300 (not every month a grand son is born !) this means that the G10 will pay for itself in analog film costs withing near to 8 months or 10 months if I indulge in some extra purchases.
Now why change my actual small wonder on behalf of the G10 ? Not dramatic issues but some:
a) I have processed within photoshop the G10 sample images provided by dpreview in the same way I process those of the A590is, and I cannot identify any difference. Nevertheless I am aware the computer screen lies, and in real prints the difference may show. But so far let's asume NO IMAGE QUALITY IMPROVEMENT, NO MORE DETAIL. Anybody is most welcome to educatedly challenge this or any other statement (of course !).
b) However the G10 comes with two tangible improvements, which I do welcome: the top shoe and the 28mm wide capability.
b1) The top shoe doesn't mean I will mount a flash there, since already in my A590is I use any external flash I own via a small slave touching the camera flash and sending the signal through a synch cord to the analog flash. All these mounted on a light bracket. So no EX flash expense required.
b2) But the top shoe will be usefull for mounting there a Soviet Universal Turret Finder.
As you know, the optical tunel viewfinder of both the A590 and the G10 are close to useless, or better than nothing, and certainly any digi without any kind of eye viewfinder is out for me.
The problem with the these better than nothing viewfinders is that you don't see all the image (85% for the A590is, 77% for the G10). Then there are the parallax issues.
And the main issue is trying to use them for autofocusing. In order to correctly auto focus with these optical tunels, is in guessing while viewing through them, the center spot that is shown in the camera LCD.
But for the shame of Canon, there is no sign or mark within the tunels providing for reference. Fortunately for humanity, those hated reds who dared to insult the original Zeiss turret finders with that comiccommie cross from edge to edge, making laugh so many folks, do provide for a central point, plus parallax mechanical manual correction.
Fortunately, Canon's G10 shoe, instead of Nikon p6000 digi top shoe, is axis centered above the lens.
My assumption is that even if both central spots do not coincide (that in the G10 LCD and the cross inside the UTF) , it will be easy to learn the difference.
The UTF will not be fixed to the G10, but mounted in time of need. So in case everything goes like I assume, I will have a real eyefinder autofocusing option, unprecedented in digitals unless they are DSLR, or semi DSLR.
c) Now lets deal with the 28mm wide. Here you are kindly asked to assume my viewpoint. I never found myself with the 35mm focal length. From the 50 mm focal length, my next stop wider where I found hapiness was ever the 24mm. The 28mm being a kind of default only.
But certainly the 28mm is for me a strong difference than max 35mm.
d) Following there are a lot of improvements on the paper that I don't know if they will really help or who among them will. I will not quote them as to save myself shame.
So this is my case, and you dear RFF reader are asked to pass your advice to me.
Perhaps I am too enthusiastic about the A590is, and instead of continuing with it I am going to sacrifice it. Perhaps the G10 improvements are not enough for the price.
Perhaps the price is not such a drama to extend about and no much harm will be done in case of minor feelings the day after. Let's hear you.
Cheers,
Ruben
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