mouren
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Something I noticed, thought I share. You might not notice this if you are using auto-focus or auto-exposure, as you tend to half press shutter anyway.
The shutter has a very noticeable lag if you press the shutter all the way from the top. The lag is virtually non-existent if you press it half way, then go.
This is true even if you are using a manual lens, ie a 40mm with Kipon adapter, a set shutter speed, a set iso setting. Basically, all manual. Try to take a shot by pressing the shutter button in one go, vs press the shutter button halfway first, hold, then press all the way down.
I originally thought this is an issue with the 35mm fuji, but after I switched on the 40mm with Kipon adapter, same thing.
Just thought I share.
The shutter has a very noticeable lag if you press the shutter all the way from the top. The lag is virtually non-existent if you press it half way, then go.
This is true even if you are using a manual lens, ie a 40mm with Kipon adapter, a set shutter speed, a set iso setting. Basically, all manual. Try to take a shot by pressing the shutter button in one go, vs press the shutter button halfway first, hold, then press all the way down.
I originally thought this is an issue with the 35mm fuji, but after I switched on the 40mm with Kipon adapter, same thing.
Just thought I share.
jsirevaag
Member
I will be shooting legacy glass and this worries me a bit. My regular subject matter doesn't require ultra-fast shutter response. That said, I would like to practice Bresson's "Decisive Moment" method of shooting in the future and I really hoped this camera could help me in the process -not hinder me.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing.
Nikulin
Established
too bad...
I loved my Leica X1 but sold it because of shutter lag
I loved my Leica X1 but sold it because of shutter lag
mouren
Established
Well, the shutter lag is not that bad if you know the quirks. You just need to get into the habit of half-press shutter after each shot when in single shot mode.
Next up, I want to get an EOS -> M adapter, so I can put a 50mm zeiss off of a pentacon six. Can't wait to see the color comes out of that.
Next up, I want to get an EOS -> M adapter, so I can put a 50mm zeiss off of a pentacon six. Can't wait to see the color comes out of that.
Mlehrman
Mlehrman
I found the x100 to have the same issue but, again, one gets accustomed to the half-press and the lag is essentially gone.
gavinlg
Veteran
All digital cameras do this. Every DSLR I've used is the same. Slight lag on full press, no lag on half press primed release.
Another reason why the digital m is such a wonderful camera. I love the fujis, but Leica is the only one who seems to have gotten this right.
john_s
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All digital cameras do this. Every DSLR I've used is the same. Slight lag on full press, no lag on half press primed release.
They do in a sense, but they are not all the same. I had for about a week a film P+S by Leica (not DSLR) with a very good zoom lens. I don't remember its name unfortunately. Even if I half pressed to get the focus-achieved light, there was still a delay that made no sense to me. The lens, even after half-pressing, still moved to the correct focus position AFTER the shutter was fully depressed. In that time one child would look away, and the other would stick a finger up its nose. Give me a mechanical camera anyday.
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jippiejee
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Another reason why the digital m is such a wonderful camera. I love the fujis, but Leica is the only one who seems to have gotten this right.
Yes, I was even shocked to see how my Leica M8 responded immediately after pressing the shutter. Without delay, ha. I was so used to shutter lag on other non-dslr digital cameras that I assumed it to be part of the feature list. Until the digital M.
Spyro
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this is because the M is the only digital camera without autoaperture ie the camera does not control aperture. Therefore the aperture is already stopped down. All other cameras with autoaperture keep the lens open for a number of reasons and when you press the button they have to stop it down first.
It does suck a little bit, you have to work around it (half press).
It does suck a little bit, you have to work around it (half press).
gavinlg
Veteran
this is because the M is the only digital camera without autoaperture ie the camera does not control aperture. Therefore the aperture is already stopped down. All other cameras with autoaperture keep the lens open for a number of reasons and when you press the button they have to stop it down first.
It does suck a little bit, you have to work around it (half press).
Bingo!
All dslrs and TTL digital cameras require the technique of 'priming' the shutter button with a half press. just when you're framing, hold the shutter button down half way. Easy.
Exactly Spyro. I've gotten used to the x100 so I'm sure I won't mind the X–Pro1. The half press is why I prefer to use autofocus on these cameras... Half press takes care of the focus and apeture.
daveisbest
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this is because the M is the only digital camera without autoaperture ie the camera does not control aperture. Therefore the aperture is already stopped down. All other cameras with autoaperture keep the lens open for a number of reasons and when you press the button they have to stop it down first.
The R-D1 is the same, and it was doing it well before any digital Leica M.
Spyro
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Dave, that's correct. I should have added the only digital camera currently in production.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
All digital cameras do this. Every DSLR I've used is the same. Slight lag on full press, no lag on half press primed release.
Exactly ... if I aim my D700 at something with one of Nikkon's finest G series AF lenses on it and the camera set to full auto and just mash the shutter button down ... there is a delay!
How can there not be? ... the thing has to focus and stop down after all!
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