kbg32
neo-romanticist
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I do cropping all of the time I fit 135 and 120 on 5x7 and 8x10.
x-ray
Veteran
Not really a surprise. You just can't have the correct FL on the camera at all times.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Those that refuse to crop are discarding potentially great images for the sake of an archaic romantic but essentially non-existent concept. Just my humble 2cents...
icebear
Veteran
Better crop than crap
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Honestly this concept of not cropping for whatever reason is beyond me. The photographer sees something important in the picture when he is at the scene. The non-cropped image is useless for the viewer who flips over a page unless the important detail is visually communicating.
The first shot in the article "tank man" is the perfect example of this.
The message the photographer - or editor for that matter, wants to transport needs to get to the recipient.
If cropping is necessary to get there, so be it.
Honestly this concept of not cropping for whatever reason is beyond me. The photographer sees something important in the picture when he is at the scene. The non-cropped image is useless for the viewer who flips over a page unless the important detail is visually communicating.
The first shot in the article "tank man" is the perfect example of this.
The message the photographer - or editor for that matter, wants to transport needs to get to the recipient.
If cropping is necessary to get there, so be it.
mfogiel
Veteran
Early press photographers simply used 4x5 negs and one lens - if they needed a tele, they simply cropped the negative.
daveleo
what?
I still don't understand why cropping / not cropping was ever a topic of discussion.
Hsg
who dares wins
The best cropped image of all time, for me, is Moriyama's stray dog.
back alley
IMAGES
I still don't understand why cropping / not cropping was ever a topic of discussion.
there is a school of thought that says an image should not be cropped but kept the same as it was coming out of the camera.
Huss
Veteran
Sometimes you do need to crop, but some use it as a crutch for sloppy/lazy composition.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
True, but that doesn't affect daveleo's point. There are schools of thought for all sorts of things. What of it?there is a school of thought that says an image should not be cropped but kept the same as it was coming out of the camera.
Cheers,
R.
x-ray
Veteran
If they are the same shape (aspect ratio), how do you tell?
Cheers,
R.
Some people print the entire frame with black borders. I've done this many times. That's about the only way to tell and even then borders can be faked in but it's a pain with darkroom prints.
shiro_kuro
Charles Bowen
This is the "Iconic"image Taken by jeff Widener
It is not a crop of from the image below.... which is used in the article "To crop or not to crop..."
I don't even think this is a crop from that image ....
As far as I know neither image was taken by Jeff .....

It is not a crop of from the image below.... which is used in the article "To crop or not to crop..."

I don't even think this is a crop from that image ....

As far as I know neither image was taken by Jeff .....
Bille
Well-known
Spanik
Well-known
As Shiro says, very obviously 3 different photos.
I never crop. Very difficult to do with slides. The photo as it was taken stands. If it is crap, it was crap when taken. All the rest is just making purses out of sow's ears.
I never crop. Very difficult to do with slides. The photo as it was taken stands. If it is crap, it was crap when taken. All the rest is just making purses out of sow's ears.
Iestrada
Well-known
I have never understood the debate.
I am finding that due to being a glasses wearer, that the image I am seeing and photographing with a 35mm lens really is more like a 40mm. I can not really see the frame lines for 35mm and 28mm on leicas.
When scanned and imported into my digital work flow, I straighten and crop to about the 40mm field of view. Sometimes, I can not get close enough and quick enough to take the image I see with my minds eye. So, I crop a bit more. Rarely but it happens.
In some people's eyes, this might make me not a good photographer. I really do not care about it. It's a hobby that gives me pleasure and my images are really for my consumption.
My perception is that most images plublished rarely fit the publishing medium and thus undergo some degree of cropping.
I am finding that due to being a glasses wearer, that the image I am seeing and photographing with a 35mm lens really is more like a 40mm. I can not really see the frame lines for 35mm and 28mm on leicas.
When scanned and imported into my digital work flow, I straighten and crop to about the 40mm field of view. Sometimes, I can not get close enough and quick enough to take the image I see with my minds eye. So, I crop a bit more. Rarely but it happens.
In some people's eyes, this might make me not a good photographer. I really do not care about it. It's a hobby that gives me pleasure and my images are really for my consumption.
My perception is that most images plublished rarely fit the publishing medium and thus undergo some degree of cropping.
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Hsg
who dares wins
I don't crop unless its the outcome of straightening the horizon or the vertical lines.
I even leave half bodies in the frame like in this image (bottom left).
I even leave half bodies in the frame like in this image (bottom left).

jim_jm
Well-known
As Shiro says, very obviously 3 different photos.
I never crop. Very difficult to do with slides. The photo as it was taken stands. If it is crap, it was crap when taken. All the rest is just making purses out of sow's ears.
As a counterpoint to this, Arnold Newman had no qualms about cropping his images - quite severely in some cases. Like the famous portrait of Igor Stravinsky http://arnoldnewmanarchive.com/media-gallery/detail/58/316 , and Marilyn Monroe http://arnoldnewmanarchive.com/media-gallery/detail/58/333 .
Definitely not a cr@p photographer.
If I think a photo is cr@p when I'm taking it, I don't. Saves film and money.
benmacphoto
Well-known
I still don't understand why cropping / not cropping was ever a topic of discussion.
I believe it may have to do with people thinking photographs tell an absolute truth.
benmacphoto
Well-known
As far as I know neither image was taken by Jeff .....
Their example looks like the crop from Stuart Franklins coverage of tank man.
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