something funny and stupid from Rockwell

The difference is obvious - the Iphone is using HDR. Not a bad, candy-colored clown-vomit kind of HDR; its well done.

The others aren't using HDR.


I am constantly amazed at the software included in most phone cameras; something none of my standalone cameras have (and no, I don't have a phone camera).
 
Bright light, landscape type shots with lots of depth of field are where small sensors do their best work. The other cameras are clearly better but that might not matter on screen, or prints under a certain size.

If you wanted to take a picture of a bird at dusk with some back light then a cell phone might not be the best tool...
 
Good exercise with nothing new shown. If you don't crop, enlarge to 1:1 iPhone is as good as anything else. As long as you don't need it long on the lens. 🙂
 
I'm sure Ken's ideal camera would be one where the saturation goes all the way up to 11.

Yep, he likes eye bleeding saturation.

"I set my Q2 to VIVID Film Style, HIGH Sharpening and HIGH Saturation, and it still looks duller than the iPhone shot."

That's because the iPhone is using HDR AND the colour balance is much warmer.
Smartphones are calibrated like that because the avg customer wants to see that, which is fine.

Leica (and other high end digicams) are set to give a more natural/realistic look to the scene as their users are enthusiasts and/or pros.
If they want a warmer look, they'd just set the WB to provide a warmer look.

I'm not knocking smartphones, they are amazing. But it's like saying I prefer coffee with two spoons of sugar vs none. The one with none sucks because it is not sweet. But the one with no sugar allows you to actually taste the coffee.

p.s. when most peeps as me what digicam to get, I just tell them to use their phone...
 
Back...way back, early 70’s if memory serves, a ad for a cheap 126 cartridge camera featured a picture taken with it, compared to a Hasselblad.
Of course the standard ‘oversized’ print from a 126 negative was 3.5 x 3.5 inches. About a 3x enlargement.
The ad copy was trying to show that the $30 camera’s pictures were almost as good as a $1000 camera.
So, nothing new here. In 2007 Ken compared a ratty Olympus Trip picked up at a junk shop for $5 with the then new Canon 5D. In a small 5x7 print the Trip did fine against the 5D.

The big difference here is the iPhone 11 Pro Max cost more than many hobby grade ICL digital, so it sure isn’t the cheap option.
 
Whew! The iPhone Pro Max costs more than the Fuji X100f. And I doubt that it would make as good 8x10 print as the Fuji.

I enjoy Ken's ramblings, not always agreeing, but I like them. This comparison reminds a lot of people on the forum asking which camera x,y. or z should I buy.
 
Used to call him Ren Kockwell but, in this age of social media hyperbole, I find his staff surprisingly mild.

Current gen smartphones take great pictures (and they're waterproof!). Night mode is awesome. I'm sure comes iPhone 12 it'll get even better.

For the past few years I've been justifying myself shooting "real cameras" for the sake of, shooting a real camera. The means you take a picture does affect its subject. Image quality comes second - I don't make huge fine art prints anyway.
 
Let's be honest here. Apple has way better software designers/engineers/developers than almost anyone else. Google may match them.

So where is the surprise considering digital photography is pretty much becoming computational based.

Shoot film.
🙂
 
FYI Ken Rockwell is an invaluable source of information for Leica gear and lenses, as well as Nikon.

I do use him as a reference for old lenses and film gear. No other site has so much useful information in one place.
 
he compared fuji, leica, canon and iphone...
its hilarious like always - his way of thinking, his settings - just check... i had to share because its so funny and nonsense....
https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/co...ca-versus-iphone-versus-canon-versus-fuji.htm
Moving along ... There's nothing to see here!

Although it does happen on occasion, it's rare that his "reviews" have any substance at all. In many instances I get the sense he never even held what he's reviewing in his hand (not much beyond stock photos, published specs, etc.)!

To be fair and reasonable, though - I don't always find him out in left field. In some cases his lens reviews are spot on and in agreement with my own experience. His comparison, for example, of the 18mm Leica Super-Elmar with the 18mm Zeiss Distagon is very good. I just wish this were always the case!
 
I think a lot of folks, especially photo nerds, are put-off by such articles because they don't want to admit that in most conditions a modern phone will be the same, if not better, than their $10,000 rig for actually making photos and posting them to where people want to see them.

I used to do commercial photography with a large national corporation and I would chuckle when the affluent dads at graduations would be fumbling with their settings and different lenses whilst I would swoop in with a $400 DSLR rig and flash and nab a candid photo of the graduate. Now everyone is using their phones and I see the entire industry kinda going down the tube because they can get quick, good-quality photos. Next frontier I think is video instead of stills...

Even the portrait market is a mess, with most successful photographers I've seen making it by providing props and exclusive locations. Run-of-the-mill posed portraits are more and more done by the individual with their phones by a family member, and with the new DOF manipulations and such, they look more or less the same as the pro DSLR with a fast prime. Of course a good photographer can make better compositional choices and pose people to look their best - but is good enough, well, good enough?
 
FYI Ken Rockwell is an invaluable source of information for Leica gear and lenses, as well as Nikon.

I do use him as a reference for old lenses and film gear. No other site has so much useful information in one place.

It's nice to hear you say that. Rockwell is good at pushing peoples' buttons and has an extremely quirky sense of humor, but he also has a lot of good information. When I need to know how to make something work on my old Nikon D700, or my Fuji, he is usually the quickest source.

I still generally hate iPhone pictures though.
 
Rockwell doesn't take Rockwell too seriously. The more people deride him the more publicity he gets and more money he seems to make. His 'Leicaman' schtick is hilarious and has more than a grain of truth to it.

As a source of kit specs, he's a great resource.
 
Years ago, Ken Rockwell posted an article how to manually do fill flash by metering the scene then a slight adjustment in base exposure plus manually adjusting the power of your flash so it only did fill. But he got the adjustments in the wrong direction. I e-mailed him explaining his error. He immediately thanked me and corrected his website.

But in his e-mail, he did acknowledge that possibly he was suggesting the old school method which most current photographers could not comprehend and probably wanted some simple auto flash setting to approximate the same thing since no one seemed to use a Vivitar 283/285 any more. So he got a lot of credit in my book for both knowing the old manual way plus acknowledging so few cared any more with modern automation.
 
Yes...this. Great for people who only use a phone for photography, not so great for those who expect more... and are used to printing large.

Didn't Apple already promote the Iphone 7 camera in 2017 with a huge "Shot on Iphone" advertisement campaign in which selected Iphone shots were shown in 25 countries on large billboards?
 
Even though I like punchy color, I thought the iPhone shots were pushing it just a little. Rather like Fuji Velvia, but a bit more so. The Leica shots seemed more like Kodachrome in the sky color. More natural. And a little blah compared to the iPhone. I suspect the truth is in the middle.

I do like Ken Rockwell's stuff. Maybe a little over the top once in a while, but mostly relevant.
 
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