rlouzan
Well-known
Spanish goverment plans to ban amateur photographers from photograping and/or filming police:
http://www.rtve.es/noticias/20121018/interior-anuncia-prohibira-difusion-imagenes-policias-internet/570889.shtml
To make matters worse riot police hide their badge numbers during demonstrations.
We're quickly becoming a police state.
Shame on you Mr. Rajoy
http://www.rtve.es/noticias/20121018/interior-anuncia-prohibira-difusion-imagenes-policias-internet/570889.shtml
To make matters worse riot police hide their badge numbers during demonstrations.
We're quickly becoming a police state.
Shame on you Mr. Rajoy
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Franco lives!Spanish goverment plans to ban amateur photographers from photograping and/or filming police:
http://www.rtve.es/noticias/20121018/interior-anuncia-prohibira-difusion-imagenes-policias-internet/570889.shtml
To make matters worse riot police hide their badges numbers during demonstrations.
We're quickly becoming a police state.
Shame on you Mr. Rajoy
Commiserations,
R.
finguanzo
Well-known
So I guess its not an American trend to take away citizens rights........
So much for moving to Spain in the future, no work, cant take pictures, whats left..?
Guess I will just have to buy sheep and become a herder, live in solitude...
Queda poco hasta que Espana vuelva a la eded del Franquismo...
So much for moving to Spain in the future, no work, cant take pictures, whats left..?
Guess I will just have to buy sheep and become a herder, live in solitude...
Queda poco hasta que Espana vuelva a la eded del Franquismo...
rlouzan
Well-known
finguanzo
Well-known
You cant blame that on Rajoy, or even Zapatero.. well, maybe Zapatero
Platinum RF
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rlouzan
Well-known
It's up to the police, but you could be charged with a crime
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So, no more this?
Platinum RF
Well-known
It's up to the police, but you could be charged with a crime.
Come on, Madrid does not have criminal code for prostitution, I have seen hookers hang around near police station, kind of safe heaven for them. Now you cannot film police?
finguanzo
Well-known
If you think cops get mad being photographed, try taking a picture of one of those prostitutes, wow....
rlouzan
Well-known
If the spanish government approves the bill, it's going to be up to the police officer's discretion to enforce it.
Madrid does not have a criminal code for prostitution, but Barcelona does - varies from state to state.
Regards,
Robert
Madrid does not have a criminal code for prostitution, but Barcelona does - varies from state to state.
Regards,
Robert
Come on, Madrid does not have criminal code for prostitution, I have seen hookers hang around near police station, kind of safe heaven for them. Now you cannot film police?
Retrotech68
Established
Interesting... I guess the Portuguese government will soon follow suit.
Unfortunately, this is a definite trend these days...
Unfortunately, this is a definite trend these days...
f6andBthere
Well-known
Oh well ... !

maddoc
... likes film again.
Oh well ... herding sheep might not be the worst idea ....
Nescio
Well-known
Franco lives!
R.
Francostein!
Damaso
Photojournalist
I doubt that the law will hold up in court but that doesn't mean the government should be proposing it in the first place. Please keep us posted on what happens!
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Brilliant! ¿Is that your own invention, or a quote (so I know whom to credit)?Francostein!
Cheers,
R.
Nescio
Well-known
Just read a review of Tim Burton's Frankenweenie a few days ago. Besides, the spanish gov is rather busy lately so I didn't need to get out my calculator to sum things up. "Disobedience" is to become an infringement and "passive resistance" a criminal offence soon (hope my vocabulary is right on these). These people belong to the same lineage that some 10 years ago emitted on the state tv images of the day before pretending to show nobody was responding to a general strike.
Fortunately, the sunshine is still free down here, but I'm sure they'll find a way to charge us for that too.
Fortunately, the sunshine is still free down here, but I'm sure they'll find a way to charge us for that too.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
¡God's Bones! ¿For clarity, what are "disobedience" and "passive resistance" in Spanish? I think you may mean 'misdemeanor' in American, or 'non-arrestable offence' in English (or maybe 'civil offence') for 'infringement' and 'felony' (US) or 'arrestable offence' (English) for 'crimimal offence'. No wonder there's a Català separatist movement...Just read a review of Tim Burton's Frankenweenie a few days ago. Besides, the spanish gov is rather busy lately so I didn't need to get out my calculator to sum things up. "Disobedience" is to become an infringement and "passive resistance" a criminal offence soon (hope my vocabulary is right on these). These people belong to the same lineage that some 10 years ago emitted on the state tv images of the day before pretending to show nobody was responding to a general strike.
Fortunately, the sunshine is still free down here, but I'm sure they'll find a way to charge us for that too.
Cheers,
R.
Nescio
Well-known
Don't know how's your spanish, but in this context "passive resistance" refers basically to sitting on the street and being towed away by the police. "Disobedience" means not going out of the way when told to do so. This is from Publico.es, a - now only online - leftish newspaper.
"Por su parte, la acción de resistencia pasiva, junto a la desobediencia, se mantiene penada con entre seis meses y un año de cárcel. La falta de desobediencia desaparece, pero se sancionará como infracción administrativa en la Ley de Seguridad Ciudadana."
Which shows, by the way, that I was wrong in my previous post. I translated "falta" as infringement. Now BOTH are penalized.
"Por su parte, la acción de resistencia pasiva, junto a la desobediencia, se mantiene penada con entre seis meses y un año de cárcel. La falta de desobediencia desaparece, pero se sancionará como infracción administrativa en la Ley de Seguridad Ciudadana."
Which shows, by the way, that I was wrong in my previous post. I translated "falta" as infringement. Now BOTH are penalized.
Jan Van Laethem
Nikkor. What else?
¡God's Bones! ¿For clarity, what are "disobedience" and "passive resistance" in Spanish? I think you may mean 'misdemeanor' in American, or 'non-arrestable offence' in English (or maybe 'civil offence') for 'infringement' and 'felony' (US) or 'arrestable offence' (English) for 'crimimal offence'. No wonder there's a Català separatist movement...
Cheers,
R.
The Spanish terms used in this context are "resistencia pasiva" and "desobediencia".
The official version is that it is forbidden to take images, record sound or publish data about police officers on duty when it could put their lives at risk or endanger on going operations".
From the pictures in the link provided, anyone can "read between the lines" what the true purpose is.
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